1963 F 85 Stock barn find
August 4th, 2013, 06:27 PM
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1963 F 85 Stock barn find
I have to sell my 63, I bought it this year, and cannot do anything with it.
It runs, and goes into gear. I did not drive it due to leaks in the brake line.
The fuel tank has several pin holes in it, I dont think it can be salvaged.
The front floor pans are rusted in the typical spot, by the fresh air vents.
I can provide more specific pictures if needed.
I live in Cincinnati, Ohio. $1500 firm.
It runs, and goes into gear. I did not drive it due to leaks in the brake line.
The fuel tank has several pin holes in it, I dont think it can be salvaged.
The front floor pans are rusted in the typical spot, by the fresh air vents.
I can provide more specific pictures if needed.
I live in Cincinnati, Ohio. $1500 firm.
August 5th, 2013, 09:01 AM
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Fuel tank pinholes are actually easy to fix, too, if that's really all that the problem is and they really are pinholes. They sell stuff you can put over the pinhole to seal it. I had a pinhole leak in the tank of a '64 Jetstar I once owned, and it took five minutes to fix. Never leaked again in the five years I owned the car.
Of course, if the tank looks like Swiss cheese or if the pinholes are really just the thinnest places where rust has occurred, then this may not work. But I wouldn't give up on that tank without further inspection as replacements are not made new, and used, good ones are difficult to come by.
August 5th, 2013, 10:01 AM
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Brake line leaks are an easy fix. Replace the brake lines.
Fuel tank pinholes are actually easy to fix, too, if that's really all that the problem is and they really are pinholes. They sell stuff you can put over the pinhole to seal it. I had a pinhole leak in the tank of a '64 Jetstar I once owned, and it took five minutes to fix. Never leaked again in the five years I owned the car.
Of course, if the tank looks like Swiss cheese or if the pinholes are really just the thinnest places where rust has occurred, then this may not work. But I wouldn't give up on that tank without further inspection as replacements are not made new, and used, good ones are difficult to come by.
I can get brand new replacement for my 64' for about $125 shipped
Permatex 12020 Instant Gas Tank Repair, 1 oz. stick : Amazon.com : Automotive
Fuel tank pinholes are actually easy to fix, too, if that's really all that the problem is and they really are pinholes. They sell stuff you can put over the pinhole to seal it. I had a pinhole leak in the tank of a '64 Jetstar I once owned, and it took five minutes to fix. Never leaked again in the five years I owned the car.
Of course, if the tank looks like Swiss cheese or if the pinholes are really just the thinnest places where rust has occurred, then this may not work. But I wouldn't give up on that tank without further inspection as replacements are not made new, and used, good ones are difficult to come by.
I can get brand new replacement for my 64' for about $125 shipped
Permatex 12020 Instant Gas Tank Repair, 1 oz. stick : Amazon.com : Automotive
August 5th, 2013, 07:09 PM
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Funny stuff-- Read this Joe P.
Thanks for all the help Joe, really. This is a kinda funny post, I laughed out loud.
If the car does not sell when the snow flies, I will pull it in the garage and begin the process of parting it out. Joe, you got DIBS on the trunk lid if your still interested in it.
If the car does not sell when the snow flies, I will pull it in the garage and begin the process of parting it out. Joe, you got DIBS on the trunk lid if your still interested in it.
August 6th, 2013, 03:09 PM
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No, they do not. They have a very small suspension crossmember that runs from side to side and holds the control arms and springs. This is really nothing like a Camaro subframe.
F-85/Jetfire suspension crossmember:
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Camaro subframe:
The Camaro subframe rails are about eight feet long. There are no subframe rails on the F-85 crossmember. It simply runs side-to-side under the engine and mounts the suspension.
F-85/Jetfire suspension crossmember:
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Camaro subframe:
The Camaro subframe rails are about eight feet long. There are no subframe rails on the F-85 crossmember. It simply runs side-to-side under the engine and mounts the suspension.
August 6th, 2013, 08:19 PM
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No, they do not. They have a very small suspension crossmember that runs from side to side and holds the control arms and springs. This is really nothing like a Camaro subframe.
F-85/Jetfire suspension crossmember:
Camaro subframe:
The Camaro subframe rails are about eight feet long. There are no subframe rails on the F-85 crossmember. It simply runs side-to-side under the engine and mounts the suspension.
F-85/Jetfire suspension crossmember:
Camaro subframe:
The Camaro subframe rails are about eight feet long. There are no subframe rails on the F-85 crossmember. It simply runs side-to-side under the engine and mounts the suspension.
August 8th, 2013, 09:39 AM
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Nope. The Camaro subframe bolts to the body in several places along those rails behind the crossmember AND it extends forward of the crossmember, mounting the front fenders and core support. The Camaro subframe carries longitudinal bending loads.
The F-85 uses a simple crossmember with THREE attach points to the body, one behind each wheel and one at the center front under the radiator. This crossmember does NOT carry any longitudinal bending loads (because it CAN'T by design). The core support and inner fenders are structural members in the F-85, welded in place at the factory. They are NOT structural in the Camaro, as the subframe carries those loads. That's a very fundamental difference in how the two cars are built.
The F-85 uses a simple crossmember with THREE attach points to the body, one behind each wheel and one at the center front under the radiator. This crossmember does NOT carry any longitudinal bending loads (because it CAN'T by design). The core support and inner fenders are structural members in the F-85, welded in place at the factory. They are NOT structural in the Camaro, as the subframe carries those loads. That's a very fundamental difference in how the two cars are built.
August 9th, 2013, 07:27 PM
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Joe, since you know a lot about these things do you got to do major work to install a 455 in one , if building a race car can you tie frame together been thinking about building one but I don't want to do a whole chassis, also what do they weigh thanks
August 11th, 2013, 09:26 AM
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See my response to your PM. Also go back up and reread this thread where I say that there are NO subframes to tie together. This car is pure unibody, not a semi-unibody like a Camaro. Also read the thread that I provided the link to in the PM. These cars weigh 2600-2700 lbs. The 455 will increase that to over 3000 lbs, BEFORE you account for the heavier trans, rear end, brakes, and suspension. At that point you'll weigh the same as a 64-67 A-body.
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