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Old December 15th, 2018, 10:06 AM
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1971 442 Convertible for Sale

I wonder what the story is with this car.. First it was listed in Chicago two weeks ago and now it is MA. I had contacted the seller on the original post as I was interested in the car. However, when I asked questions about the reverse stripes (never heard of) and if the car had been started, he responded back he had a buyer. So it sounds like the car was sold and the new owner didn't like what he saw when he got it. Does anyone know about this car?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Oldsmobile-442-455-BIG-BLOCK/264088305051?hash=item3d7ce3bd9b:g:Pz0AAOSwPGtcBC1-:rk:1f:0&vxp=mtr

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Oldsmo....m43663.l44720
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Old December 15th, 2018, 10:41 AM
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stay away from it, there is so much wrong from just pictures that I can only imagine what is wrong when seeing it in person. OK, maybe for $7,500 it would be worth it - if you wnat a project with more to do than the eye can see
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Old December 15th, 2018, 11:09 AM
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Can they take anymore useless pictures that show hardly anything. Its in pretty bad shape for only being on the road for a few years and then stored in a climate controlled warehouse.
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Old December 15th, 2018, 12:12 PM
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What a turd. First, that is NOT original paint. Heck, look at the pinstripes around the edge of the wide stripes on the hood. What's wrong with this picture?







Also note the chip in the paint on the rear fender extension and the grey primer under it. That's not factory lacquer by any stretch of the imagination. Oh, and where are the factory side and trunk pinstripes for a 442?




Of course, the "numbers matching" Holley carb. More chips in the paint showing grey primer under it. Blue overspray on the underside of the hood isn't "original paint" either.


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Old December 15th, 2018, 02:07 PM
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Funny - in the original add he said the factory reversed the stripes by accident on the early 71's, which is what I questioned in my email, as well as the side stripes. I used to live in Bellingham MA, which is where the 2nd ad is from - I would have liked to have seen it in person
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Old December 15th, 2018, 05:29 PM
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The current listing has scam written all over it. 3 day auction, no reserve and the same pix from the last seller/scammer after he pulled the listing oh and 83.3% feedback.
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Old December 15th, 2018, 05:36 PM
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Is anyone buying that story about the factory making a mistake and painting the stripes on backwards? Come on now........
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Old December 15th, 2018, 06:17 PM
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I had a very bad experience with this seller. I think there is another post about "Joe Cunningham" and his '71 442 original low mileage car.
Follow the advice of the others in this post, specifically 442Fred and Stevengerard!
This guy is bad news! And specializes in "original, documented cars. I know of his Pace Car, His '72 442 U Code, and now his '71 442 convertible.
I think he's received enough endorsements on this site to stay away...lol.
Finally, he can't keep his name straight.

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Old December 15th, 2018, 06:28 PM
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Exhibit B When you get a chance, please read the thread regarding 1971-1972-443-Viking blue.html

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...king-blue.html

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Old December 16th, 2018, 03:42 AM
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Is anyone buying that story about the factory making a mistake and painting the stripes on backwards? Come on now........
The backward stripes were probably applied the same day they installed the rear view mirror upside down. Both were done by the same factory worker. 😀😀😀

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Old December 16th, 2018, 06:29 AM
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Twilight - thanks for sharing the other post I hadn't seen it before. I use to live in Bellingham MA and am just wondering who this guy is as it is a rather small town and I never came across him before. The next town over which is Hopedale, has a guy with a great collection, and you see is cars selling for over 100K, as they had unique options like the wrong color stripes, etc. which are all documented
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Did some searching around by the guys cell number and it is a little shithole of a place about 5 miles from my old house. I use to drive by here at least twice a week

https://www.milfordautoclinic.com/mo...x?vid=19783310
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Originally Posted by Johnd View Post
Did some searching around by the guys cell number and it is a little shithole of a place about 5 miles from my old house. I use to drive by here at least twice a week

https://www.milfordautoclinic.com/mo...x?vid=19783310
No that is one heck of an auto mall - LOL
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Old December 16th, 2018, 05:01 PM
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Twilight - thanks for sharing the other post I hadn't seen it before. I use to live in Bellingham MA and am just wondering who this guy is as it is a rather small town and I never came across him before. The next town over which is Hopedale, has a guy with a great collection, and you see is cars selling for over 100K, as they had unique options like the wrong color stripes, etc. which are all documented
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Old December 17th, 2018, 08:22 PM
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Says it doesn’t have a title just a bill of sale, if it was a nice car would turn away from it for just that reason
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Old December 18th, 2018, 05:03 AM
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Says it doesn’t have a title just a bill of sale, if it was a nice car would turn away from it for just that reason
Depends on the state. Some states still don't issue titles for cars over a certain age. This is perfectly legal. On the other hand, if the state in question DOES issue titles and the car doesn't have one, I agree with you completely.
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Georgia will not issue a title for older cars, just a bill of sale, regardless of the documentation provided.
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Old December 18th, 2018, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano View Post
Depends on the state. Some states still don't issue titles for cars over a certain age. This is perfectly legal. On the other hand, if the state in question DOES issue titles and the car doesn't have one, I agree with you completely.
Think I read it was in Massachusetts which if it was does issue titles

Bringing it here to Delaware from out of state with no title would be a complete disaster
DMV is a pita
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Think I read it was in Massachusetts which if it was does issue titles

Bringing it here to Delaware from out of state with no title would be a complete disaster
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I'm curious, would Delaware be a problem if it was my own car registered to me in another state and I moved to Delaware?
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I’ve lived here my whole life so not sure but I’ve bought and registered a lot of cars and if there is any marks or cross outs or anything unnormal on the title they will not accept it.

I’ve never tried to title a car without a title but I would not even try too long and drawn out fight to even try
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If you have the previous state paperwork, you can get a tittle in DE. can be easy or a pain in the backside. I have titled lots of cars in DE. . I have titled cars from out of state with just a bill of sale. There are many variables to the process . If you have a specific car and paperwork , to talk about, I will help. Feel free to pm Jim
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