Brake light after hosing-.-
January 17th, 2019, 07:34 AM
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Brake light after hosing-.-
1967 Cutlass Supreme 442 - 400cui/THM400
Hello!
I was hosing down my tires, rims and lower fenders - carefully and with enough distance I thought because it was a higher pressure hose at the gas station - after I had driven through some mud.
After restarting the car the brake light on the left, which also functions as the parking brake light, stayed on. After some driving and restarting no change. Car still brakes very well and fluid reservoir seems full( sorry I couldn’t see any marking in the garage, and the maglite had some kind of issue - but the fluid in both reservoirs was almost full to the top, quarter inch left). What made me wonder a little, was the front one of the two reservoir gasket „nipples“. Both are opposite the bottom of the each reservoir and the one to the car front was stretched out a little in bottom direction. If that had been there before the brake light occurred I don’t know but I thought I should mention it. Made it plain as the other one and closed the reservoir- no change.
Could anyone tell me where to start looking?
I am gonna check the reservoir again and the brake lines close to the tires tomorrow with better lighting.
Thanks upfront!
Hello!
I was hosing down my tires, rims and lower fenders - carefully and with enough distance I thought because it was a higher pressure hose at the gas station - after I had driven through some mud.
After restarting the car the brake light on the left, which also functions as the parking brake light, stayed on. After some driving and restarting no change. Car still brakes very well and fluid reservoir seems full( sorry I couldn’t see any marking in the garage, and the maglite had some kind of issue - but the fluid in both reservoirs was almost full to the top, quarter inch left). What made me wonder a little, was the front one of the two reservoir gasket „nipples“. Both are opposite the bottom of the each reservoir and the one to the car front was stretched out a little in bottom direction. If that had been there before the brake light occurred I don’t know but I thought I should mention it. Made it plain as the other one and closed the reservoir- no change.
Could anyone tell me where to start looking?
I am gonna check the reservoir again and the brake lines close to the tires tomorrow with better lighting.
Thanks upfront!
January 17th, 2019, 09:22 AM
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Make sure the parking brake is not engaged first and disconnect the plug to the switch. If the light is still lit go under the hood to the combination valve and disconnect the 2 wires from the switch and see if the light goes out and the plug is not wet with water and crud. If it does, you need to inspect the wheel cylinders on the front to see if there are any leaks.
January 17th, 2019, 10:55 AM
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Make sure the parking brake is not engaged first and disconnect the plug to the switch. If the light is still lit go under the hood to the combination valve and disconnect the 2 wires from the switch and see if the light goes out and the plug is not wet with water and crud. If it does, you need to inspect the wheel cylinders on the front to see if there are any leaks.
February 18th, 2019, 11:26 AM
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So after a few weeks of freezing cold, i found time to start the search.
when i disconnect the wire of the parking-brake the light stays on.
BUT when i disconnect the wire of the combination-valve the light goes off ! Does that mean now that there is something actually wrong with with the braking system? Or could it still come from an electrical issue?
The car still brakes, and the the reservoir doesnt lose fluid(or is that because the combination valve already excluded the failing brake line?)
Front disc and back drum brakes
greetings
M
when i disconnect the wire of the parking-brake the light stays on.
BUT when i disconnect the wire of the combination-valve the light goes off ! Does that mean now that there is something actually wrong with with the braking system? Or could it still come from an electrical issue?
The car still brakes, and the the reservoir doesnt lose fluid(or is that because the combination valve already excluded the failing brake line?)
Front disc and back drum brakes
greetings
M
February 18th, 2019, 03:23 PM
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Chances are based on your first post explaining the cover boot was pulled out a bit and the light on, you lost fluid and there was enough differential pressure between the front and the rear to cause the shuttle switch to activate. Pull the front drum assy's and check for leaks.
February 18th, 2019, 04:00 PM
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The distribution block has an internal piston that moves one way or the other if there is a pressure differential between the front and back halves of the brake system. Once the piston moves, it touches the electrical contact and shorts to ground, turning on the BRAKE idiot light. A leak is the most common cause of a pressure differential, however if there is no visible external leak, it can also be caused by a master cylinder with a weak seal on one of the pistons.
February 20th, 2019, 02:36 PM
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thanks a lot for the information and help so far.
i will inspect further for leakage on the whole braking system.
btw the car does have DISC brakes in front (stock)
waiting for better temperatures
greetings
i will inspect further for leakage on the whole braking system.
btw the car does have DISC brakes in front (stock)
waiting for better temperatures
greetings
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