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Old January 17th, 2019, 03:28 PM
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Fender scripts...

Does the body service manual or chassis service manual show the measurements for the proper placement of the fender scripts on a 72 Supreme?
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You're thinking of the piercings on the sheet metal for the Cutlass Script? The best you can get is the section from the 72 Assembly Manual. Do you have one?

EDIT: Dave the same information is on page 11-19 of your CSM. It doesn't give exact measures though. Maybe Chief could help you with this because his car will have the exact same script and location as yours.

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You're thinking of the piercings on the sheet metal for the Cutlass Script? The best you can get is the section from the 72 Assembly Manual. Do you have one?

EDIT: Dave the same information is on page 11-19 of your CSM. It doesn't give exact measures though. Maybe Chief could help you with this because his car will have the exact same script and location as yours.
I'm not actually gonna punch holes in the fender. I'm planning on getting a set of aftermarket scripts and cutting the posts off, then using 3M tape to mount them, so I need the measurements for where the scripts would be.

BTW, I have a set of NOS scripts, but no way I'm gonna cannibalize those...they're being saved for later😀
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From the edge of the door - where the 1/4 panel meets the door - to the top of the letter 'C' in 'Cutlass' - the distance is exactly 3.5"
From the top of the chrome body side molding, to the lowest portion of the word 'Cutlass' - the distance is exactly 3.5"




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Old January 18th, 2019, 01:45 AM
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From the edge of the door - where the 1/4 panel meets the door - to the top of the letter 'C' in 'Cutlass' - the distance is exactly 3.5"
From the top of the chrome body side molding, to the lowest portion of the word 'Cutlass' - the distance is exactly 3.5"
Thx Chief...I don't have the side molding, so what would be the measurement from the bottom of the fender?
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12.5" from the bottom of the fender to the bottom of the letter 'C' in 'Cutlass'
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Old January 18th, 2019, 06:31 AM
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Dave, you have the rocker panel molding on your car, so be sure to measure from the bottom of that. I'm sure you likely realized that but just making sure. Great measurements Chief.

BTW Dave, if you ever did pierce the car for those NOS emblems you would have to also undo the inner fenders to get the speed nuts on the back of the posts. I also have some NOS emblems but I might just sell them as I don't think I'll ever put them on my car. I have waaay too many accumulated NOS and NORS parts in the shed I'll never likely use.
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Dave, you have the rocker panel molding on your car, so be sure to measure from the bottom of that. I'm sure you likely realized that but just making sure. Great measurements Chief.

BTW Dave, if you ever did pierce the car for those NOS emblems you would have to also undo the inner fenders to get the speed nuts on the back of the posts. I also have some NOS emblems but I might just sell them as I don't think I'll ever put them on my car. I have waaay too many accumulated NOS and NORS parts in the shed I'll never likely use.
Allan, I think you're cornfused my friend ..I have no rocker panel molding...
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Allan, I think you're cornfused my friend ..I have no rocker panel molding...
??? I don't think so. Every 72 Cutlass Supreme came with rocker stainless. Check the bottom of your car. It should have this trim.


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Dave, you have the rocker panel molding on your car...
Listen, if Allan says you have rocker panel molding; then, by jiminy you have it!
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BTW Dave- This is NOT your car....

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??? I don't think so. Every 72 Cutlass Supreme came with rocker stainless. Check the bottom of your car. It should have this trim.
Nope...no trim



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Since you've stated in previous threads your vehicle was at some previous point in time lighting up the speedway tracks, it's natural for a previous owner to have removed the BSM.
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Nope...no trim

Well it appears you don't, although from the factory it did. Lots of mods done to that car of yors. Anywho, that's another thing you need to look for in the restoration process. Important note: only the rocker stainless for the 72 A body coupes will fit. The sedan stainless is much too long. I apologize for my error on your car. The sad thing IMO is that although the missing stainless would be otherwise ideal for a CS vert or lower Cutlass model to clone into a 442, your car could never be one since the 442 option was never offered on teh CS HT. What a shame too since it's a U code car.
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Listen, if Allan says you have rocker panel molding; then, by jiminy you have it!
You crack me up!
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Old January 22nd, 2019, 07:04 AM
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Dave- Per your PM request for driver side measurements. I can't embed an image in PM so posting it here. You need anything else let me know. 12.5" from the bottom of the fender to the bottom of the letter 'C' in 'Cutlass'



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Old January 22nd, 2019, 07:22 AM
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Eeek Is that mud splashes I see on your car?? Sacrilege ! Time to get the garden hose out..... BTW, nice portrait
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We've recently seen more rain we surely don't need. I installed new breaker points Sunday & tuned it up so I was anxious to see how it ran down the HWY. I wasn't keen to wipe it down @ real feel temps of 5*F before taking new picture for Dave. I'll try to ensure show-room condition prior to posting future images. LMAO
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Hahahaha I just got in from washing the Malibu. It's a balmy 15 here and when I go early in the morning there's virtually no one there so I can take as much time as I want to wash and then dry it off. Don't get me wrong, i'd never take my Cutlass out in weather like this. BTW, what shall I call you since you know Dave and my names? Chief seems soooo 'screenish'.
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BTW, what shall I call you since you know Dave and my names?
Good point. I'll see where to configure my 'signature' and update with a name.
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The Vintage Chief moniker you most likely determined relates to my Indian Chief Vintage motorcycle.


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Very cool bike Norm. I've never seen one decked out quite like that. I'll bet it turns lots of heads when it's on the road. Did you restore it or buy it like that?
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Sometimes a nuisance when riding, filling up the fuel tank, etc. Plan on spending an additional 15'-30' each time I get on/off w/ conversations from the gawkers. I could tell you stories which boggle my imagination. None-the-less, it's actually a 2010, built in Kings Mountain, NC prior to Indian Motorcycle's purchase by Polaris Industries. It is designed after the (primarily) 1953 Indian Chief motorcycle. I purchased new for far and above too much money (I had just retired - I wanted an Indian, I had the $$ can't take it with you - I bought it) @ dealership (Indian Motorcycle Charlotte). Now has 60K miles with trips to Canada, West Coast (N.A.), Southern Coast, and many various trips elsewhere. It's a pleasure to enjoy. Like many things, you need to be vigilant on maintenance. Motorcycle ownership is not for those afraid to turn a wrench. I've owned maybe a dozen motorcycles in my lifetime. It was the top-of-the-line model. I have updated many appointments.
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"chief" norm,that is a gorgeous moto cycle but with all due respect how does it qualify as "vintage"? people don't even call my 1 owner(106,00mi)1980 FLH vintage yet.jc
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Thanks jc. I did not say it was a "vintage' motorcycle. I stated it was a Indian Chief Vintage motorcycle. That is the EXACT description by model and name.


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i guess if they say it ,it must be true.i wasn't aware they had a model designation named that.i 've been having trouble paying attention to the remake of the indian.you know how old farts get.yours is a great looking machine tho.
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btw,riding a shovelhead can be a nuisance too.i swear i see more panheads.
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Understand. It is ONLY because I've owned an Indian I have become knowledgeable of Indian's entire history - not to the point of a compulsive disorder as those in attendance at AMCA meets - but, I can hold my own. My bud owns a 52' pan all chromed out - the type he gets to walk away with 1st place each time. He's now in FL. He's looking for a 1952 FL motorcycle license plate. I like all motorcycles (and, I have owned many including a couple 70s sporties). Shovelheads are way cool. In FL several years ago I was riding in a 'ride' with ~100 motorcycles - riding next to a 'vintage' 1928 Henderson Deluxe when the rider's motorcycle quit (and, we were last of the group). Like I'd do for anyone, I stopped and quit the ride offering assistance. Said he just finished it all up. He was all about 'himself' - never a thanks for stopping, but lots of I know what's wrong - as the gas 'ran' from the tumbler (in which he installed the wrong nut). He said a nut had come off. I offered to get a nut for him. I got a nut for him. He puled the magneto, installed the correct nut on the tumbler. No go on starting but it fixed his leak. I asked if the magneto was installed in its correct orientation. I was met with this dark glaring 'stare'. I told him magnetos have to be installed in the exact orientation. Basically, he told me I was full of dog doo-doo. Well, we flipped the magneto 180* and bam - off it goes. He left, I mumbled & then on my way. A completely rebuilt 1928 Henderson in which he simply installed the magneto upside down fixing an incorrectly installed fastening nut. Simple stuff. LMAO

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i have never owned an Indian motocycle but i have a great respect and love for them,you well know they were built in mass,less than an hour from me and i had visited the original plant and subsequent museum many,many times.the museum now is part of a collection of products made in springfield ,mass.it's quite nice because it's larger,the previous location had to rotate objects because there wasn't enough space.good luck with your "vintage" indian.nice hairdo btw.
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I am familiar w/ the Wigwam & I wish I would have visited the Springfield, Mass museum prior to Esta Manthos having sold the museum. I resided in MKE, WI several years and toured the H-D facility on several occasions. I respect all motorcycles. About this hairdo....
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Yoiks..my thread has been hijacked 😮
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Dave- You asked for the measurements on the driver's side. IMO, one of the sides' measurements (probably passenger's side) I provided to you is incorrect - again, IMO. Since I did not perform or have performed the paint job on this vehicle (which is not the original color) I am suspicious one of the sides (driver's or passenger's) is incorrect. I'll let you be the judge. Examine closely.

Driver's side is 3.5" from the door/body panel seem (driver's side); passenger's side is 4.5" from the door/body panel seem. The driver's side looks 'centered', IMO. The passenger's side does not appear centered.

If I were to have to remove my insignias, I would ensure they were centered. Your car, your decision. Just my 0.02

I have absolutely no clue whether the PO used the original body panel holes for the insignias.
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Yoiks..my thread has been hijacked 😮
unfortunately it seems to happen a lot, to other threads as well. I had one thread that got hijacked at least 20 times during its run. I know what it feels like.
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Just as an observation I would be careful if you have to drill the script holes. It appears the back of those fenders have been re worked. The back of the fender where the script goes looks to be flattened out a bit right in the area the script goes. So if its been reworked and there is filler there be careful . If you push too hard the filler will crack .
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Driver's side is 3.5" from the door/body panel seem (driver's side); passenger's side is 4.5" from the door/body panel seem. The driver's side looks 'centered', IMO. The passenger's side does not appear centered.
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Would I center them from the inner edge of the wheel well trim or the outer edge where the trim meets the body?
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Would I center them from the inner edge of the wheel well trim or the outer edge where the trim meets the body?
The bottom of the fender to the bottom of the Cutlass script = 12.5"
Length of the Cutlass script = 5.25"
Distance between Door Edge and edge of fender Wheel Well opening = 13"
You require 3.875" on each side of Cutlass script



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The bottom of the fender to the bottom of the Cutlass script = 12.5"
Length of the Cutlass script = 5.25"
Distance between Door Edge and edge of fender Wheel Well opening = 13"
You require 3.875" on each side of Cutlass script

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