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Fresh chrome front bumper: now scrap

Old August 19th, 2018, 07:39 PM
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Fresh chrome front bumper: now scrap

My bumpers were off my car when I bought it. It came with two sets. Evidently some ******** cut off the original tabs on the bottom and welded these on. Of course they donít line up. $800 down the *******.
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Old August 19th, 2018, 08:41 PM
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make a bracket, bolts to both holes.
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Old August 19th, 2018, 08:58 PM
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Something just doesn't look right... It almost seems that the tab is bent in the wrong direction... Do you have a better view of the overall bumper in relation to the tab??? It's hard to believe the tab was cut off and re-welded... Since the bumpers were not on the vehicle when you purchased it, are you sure the brackets are correct and in the correct location...
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Old August 20th, 2018, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Run to Rund View Post
make a bracket, bolts to both holes.
I would be inclined to come up with a solution also. Possibly modify the black part and repaint.
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Old August 20th, 2018, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CRUZN 66 View Post
Something just doesn't look right... It almost seems that the tab is bent in the wrong direction... Do you have a better view of the overall bumper in relation to the tab??? It's hard to believe the tab was cut off and re-welded... Since the bumpers were not on the vehicle when you purchased it, are you sure the brackets are correct and in the correct location...
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I agree,something doesn't look right. If he would post a picture showing it from a distance,maybe we can figure it out. That tab has not been cut and welded. What year is the bumper?
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Old August 20th, 2018, 09:12 AM
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Test fit bumpers BEFORE you re-chrome them.
Ask me how I know.
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Old August 20th, 2018, 10:17 AM
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The car came with 2 sets of bumpers. I kept the other ones and looked last night. I don't know if it was my chrome shop or someone back the in the day modified the tab, but the non reworked ones look more like the ones in the FSM with a tab that is part of the bumper going vertical towards the hood if on the car. For some reason that upward tab is gone on mine. I don't know why anyone would have done this back in the day and then gone through the task of putting it in the wrong spot.
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i agree,something doesn't look right. If he would post a picture showing it from a distance,maybe we can figure it out. That tab has not been cut and welded. What year is the bumper?
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Old August 20th, 2018, 11:26 AM
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Hi, please post a pic of the complete bumper from the back side, also the mounting brackets. 66 & 67 mount the same way, and I don't have any vertical tabs on my 66.
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Old August 20th, 2018, 03:26 PM
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The car came with 2 sets of bumpers. I kept the other ones and looked last night. I don't know if it was my chrome shop or someone back the in the day modified the tab, but the non reworked ones look more like the ones in the FSM with a tab that is part of the bumper going vertical towards the hood if on the car. For some reason that upward tab is gone on mine. I don't know why anyone would have done this back in the day and then gone through the task of putting it in the wrong spot.
There are two sets of tabs on the bumper. One is for the bracket and the other is for the rubber air flap to fit over. Which one is missing?
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Passenger side tab
View from drivers side to passenger side
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Are you positive you have 67 brackets and not 66's?
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Old August 20th, 2018, 07:06 PM
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No, Iím not sure. The bumpers and brackets were off the car. My dad has a 67 and said his bumpers have that piece that comes up. The 67 assembly manual shows that too.

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Hi, please post a pic of the complete bumper from the back side, also the mounting brackets. 66 & 67 mount the same way, and I don't have any vertical tabs on my 66.
So 66 brackets might get me out of this jam?
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Old August 20th, 2018, 07:38 PM
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No, Iím not sure. The bumpers and brackets were off the car. My dad has a 67 and said his bumpers have that piece that comes up. The 67 assembly manual shows that too.

The 66 & 67 brackets look a lot alike but will not interchange. Before you do anything,I would find a known correct 67 bracket to check.
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good morning...i have several sets of 66 brackets if you should need them...good luck!...kim [email protected]
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good morning...i have several sets of 66 brackets if you should need them...good luck!...kim [email protected]
do you think I have a 66 front bumper? The other bumper I have upstairs seems to have those tabs closer to the outside of the bumper
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do you think I have a 66 front bumper? The other bumper I have upstairs seems to have those tabs closer to the outside of the bumper
Post a picture of the front of the bumper or does it have a single oval opening in the middle of the bumper or two openings on both sides of the tag area?
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I can do either 66 or 67 brackets. 67 lower bumper tabs do not look like that.

Do you have incorrect bumpers? If you post a picture or pictures of the bumper so we can see the entire thing from both sides that would help to help you.

I will post a picture of my 67 lower bracket to bumper

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If you really want some help with this issue, why not post the pics that several have asked for???
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Old August 23rd, 2018, 07:42 PM
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Larry my dad confirmed his 67 bumper has that rise in it like the one in the picture. I also googled a 66 442 and I definitely donít have a 66 front bumper. My openings are clearly 67. This leads to two conclusions.
1) my chrome shop did something
2) someone in the past did for whatever reason and modified the bracket
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Old August 23rd, 2018, 10:32 PM
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The rises in the bumper dip back down again and donít continue along the lines of the filler between core support and bumper
No sharp line. Bolt hole in wrong spot

Tabs not centered for support
Well the bumper is scrap. I honestly believe now after really looking at my bumper and then the other core bumper at my shop; that the chrome shop gave me the wrong bumper back.

1) the groove where the rubbers fit against the fender is way too tight, the ďVĒ is way too acute

2) this center support where the bumper attaches to the hood release support has no mounting holes (see pictures)

3) and most obvious is the sharp lines of the 67 bumper are not on this freshly chromed bumper. (See pics).

Million dollar question is whose bumper did I get and what car does it fit.
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if you back up and take a picture of the entire bumper it will help others help you
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if you back up and take a picture of the entire bumper it will help others help you

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Old August 23rd, 2018, 10:56 PM
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that is not a 67 Cutlass/442/f85 bumper very different than what you have
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bumper

looks like a 68 to me
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I agree here is my 68 looks just like it.

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That definitely is not a 67, the shape is wrong and it has a built in license plate bracket.
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Called the chrome shop today and went over there with my other 67 bumper and that one. Obviously not the same, the owner was out until Tuesday but the guy there said they'd likely chrome my other one free of charge. Oddly no one has brought back mine.
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Called the chrome shop today and went over there with my other 67 bumper and that one. Obviously not the same, the owner was out until Tuesday but the guy there said they'd likely chrome my other one free of charge. Oddly no one has brought back mine.
Just curious. You had another 67 bumper and you couldn't compare them to see the difference?
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I brought the fresh bumpers to my house and stuck them in the basement. Left the newspaper on them for quite awhile. The other bumpers I left at my auto repair shop upstairs in storage. I dropped off two 67 sets at the chrome shop that day last year and took the crummier ones back to my shop.
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I'm not sure anyone else has the "*****" to say it but read your original post. (some ********) apparently did not do anything, And it is as simple as you did not check it against the other bumper you had. Yes the shop made the mistake of giving you the wrong bumper. But, Gee lets just start calling everyone a name and blaming and on and on.

I hate when people do this. Thought you should be told. It was hard to help you as you were reluctant to give us the picture all asked for to see the bumper not small parts of it.

I know you will get all pist at me now and make comments about me. But, the point is; research with a positive result out come in mind, is better than going off on someone.

Just my 2 cents
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I'm not sure anyone else has the "*****" to say it but read your original post. (some ********) apparently did not do anything, And it is as simple as you did not check it against the other bumper you had. Yes the shop made the mistake of giving you the wrong bumper. But, Gee lets just start calling everyone a name and blaming and on and on.

I hate when people do this. Thought you should be told. It was hard to help you as you were reluctant to give us the picture all asked for to see the bumper not small parts of it.

I know you will get all pist at me now and make comments about me. But, the point is; research with a positive result out come in mind, is better than going off on someone.

Just my 2 cents
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Nah. Weíre good Larry. Youíve been good to me. Helping me out on parts and what not.
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