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Old September 8th, 2013, 09:34 AM
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Need some help/guidance on 68 400 G Block...

I recently acquired a 68 Cutlass convertible that is a 442 clone. It has all of the 442 components on/in/under it other than the VIN # including a 68 400 G block. The engine was running rough when I bought it (seller told me it was the carb). I ultimately did a compression check to find that one cylinder had 55 lbs while the others were 140-145. We did a test with air for that cylinder and the air came out the oil fill tude so we knew that it was a piston/ring issue. We pulled the engine and upon pulling the pistons, found 5 of the cylinders had cracked rings, some of the cylinders had taper in them and 3 of the pistons had material worn away/missing from the rings flexing/movement within the cylinder. The crank, rods, heads, etc are all fine. The bore was the factory 3.870. The thought was to do a bore job to clean up the cylinders and new pistons/rings but new pistons appear to be fairly hard to find and expensive. On the other hand 455s are cheap and plentiful. The car is not a race car but a nice cruiser. I'd like to keep the 400 G block from an originality perspective (yeah I know, that is an oxymoron....wanting originality in a clone). What suggestions/routes should I go for a set of new pistons to use the 400? Or should I just forget about that block and find a 455?

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Old September 8th, 2013, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by seeyah
I'd like to keep the 400 G block from an originality perspective (yeah I know, that is an oxymoron....wanting originality in a clone). What suggestions/routes should I go for a set of new pistons to use the 400? Or should I just forget about that block and find a 455?
The G-block is one of Oldsmobiles worst engine designs. Some folks have gone up to a 4.000 bore on these blocks, giving you a 427 Olds. I think more real 68-69 442s have 455s instead of G-block motors anyway. I'd probably go that way. If the casting number is really important to you, talk to Chris Witt.
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Old September 8th, 2013, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
The G-block is one of Oldsmobiles worst engine designs. Some folks have gone up to a 4.000 bore on these blocks, giving you a 427 Olds. I think more real 68-69 442s have 455s instead of G-block motors anyway. I'd probably go that way. If the casting number is really important to you, talk to Chris Witt.
Correct, you can make it a 427 fairly easily by using a Mopar piston and a 7" rod. If you do that you can make an honest 375hp pretty easily with the right combo.
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Old September 12th, 2013, 05:54 PM
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Use a 425, change the casting number to appear to be the "correct" G...
All problems solved.
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Old September 12th, 2013, 06:21 PM
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Welcome Jim.
We need some pics....
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Old September 16th, 2013, 02:56 PM
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OK, I found a ready to go 455 locally that a guy has in a 69 Cutlass and wants to go to a LS engine. Unfortunately the machine shop has already done some work to the old 400 and so I'm going to have some sunk costs which I need to try to recover if I go the 455 route. What are a set of freshly redone C heads (new valves, guides, hardened seats) and a fresh polished crank worth?
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Old September 16th, 2013, 03:09 PM
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Old September 16th, 2013, 03:17 PM
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That is nice Jim!
Looks pretty good for a clone.
I couldn't guess on the worth of
the parts though.
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You can probably recoup some of the costs for the heads and crank when you sell them. What are the specs of the 455?
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