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Old September 7th, 2018, 06:37 AM
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All , I have a 72 cutlsss vert with a 70s 350. I’m going to start building a 455. What’s all involved with this? What do I have to change? I have discovered that I will need better coils upfront and a better radiator. I already have disc brakes in the front. Any guidance is greatly appreciated.
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All , I have a 72 cutlsss vert with a 70s 350. I’m going to start building a 455. What’s all involved with this? What do I have to change? I have discovered that I will need better coils upfront and a better radiator. I already have disc brakes in the front. Any guidance is greatly appreciated.
The only meaningful external difference between the 350 and 455 is the deck height. Use your same motor mounts (do NOT get "455" motor mounts - they won't match your frame mounts). If you need new rubber mounts, use Anchor 2261. Use either W/Z exhaust manifolds or headers. Transfer the water pump, accessory brackets, and pulleys as a matched set from the 350. Use a six blade clutch fan if you don't already have one. Get a four row radiator.
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Old September 7th, 2018, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
The only meaningful external difference between the 350 and 455 is the deck height. Use your same motor mounts (do NOT get "455" motor mounts - they won't match your frame mounts). If you need new rubber mounts, use Anchor 2261. Use either W/Z exhaust manifolds or headers. Transfer the water pump, accessory brackets, and pulleys as a matched set from the 350. Use a six blade clutch fan if you don't already have one. Get a four row radiator.
Thanks Joe. This sounds good. I'd also imagine I can use the same TH350 too. I want to build a good street motor.....not for race. I also have some smogger J heads. I've heard porting them out will be good for application. Was told that since I'm not racing, why blow the money on new heads, esp aluminum ones.
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Old September 7th, 2018, 04:08 PM
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I had a 455 that I put together with bone stock J heads and it was a tire burner. Could it have made more power with either porting or some other heads, sure. But I wasn't looking for "all the power" and I was happy with it.
Do what makes you happy and what you can afford.
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Old September 7th, 2018, 05:00 PM
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Yes. I’m trying to do a budget build. The heads have to be cleaned up anyway so I figured I may as well port them. I really just want a fun street car. Not looking to race or anything like that.
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Old September 7th, 2018, 06:10 PM
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If the suspension is good and your happy with the stance now, a 455 is almost the same weight as the 350. Probably within 50 pounds if you replace the cast iron intake with aftermarket aluminum. The 455 basically falls into place in the early A body cars, it is probably the easiest swap to do.
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350 to 455 is a easy swap. 4 core radiator. Springs isn’t a big must do but helps down the road. Use new mounts.
Originally Posted by Rosco920
All , I have a 72 cutlsss vert with a 70s 350. I’m going to start building a 455. What’s all involved with this? What do I have to change? I have discovered that I will need better coils upfront and a better radiator. I already have disc brakes in the front. Any guidance is greatly appreciated.
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Old September 7th, 2018, 06:43 PM
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I was thinking I’d swap out the old suspension and get new. I believe the originals are still in there. I’d imagine that they sag a little too since they are so old.

Im thinking of building myself. Will be first build. I’d def have machine shop do all the matching and balancing. I’d like to assemble myself. Hard hard could it be....?

Also, that’s for all the advice. It confirms my initial thoughts.
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The A-body cars sit too high in the front for my tastes anyway, so even after swapping a BBO in place of an SBO, I've ended up cutting a half coil or so off the stock SBO springs to get the stance I wanted. The actual weight difference between an SBO and BBO is around 50 lbs. If you use an aluminum intake, that difference is obviously much smaller.
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