Wanted: Crate motor 455
#1
Wanted: Crate motor 455
Looking to purchase a 455 crate motor for my 72 442. Any idea's or links please send along. I'm in Massachusetts so nothing from the west coast, shipping would kill the purchase. Thanks.
#2
Just curious since I'm West Coast and not in your target area, but what do you consider a "Crate motor 455?"
I always thought a crate motor was 100% brand new including the block. I learn something every day but never thought there might be a brand new 455 Olds sitting in a crate. I guess anything is possible.
I always thought a crate motor was 100% brand new including the block. I learn something every day but never thought there might be a brand new 455 Olds sitting in a crate. I guess anything is possible.
#4
There are many places in MA that have a good reputation with Olds motors. I used Custom Automotive Machine in Weymouth. Dana did a great job. I've got over 4000 miles with zero problems
Last edited by allyolds68; June 15th, 2013 at 06:32 PM.
#6
The only 2 I know of is Proformance and Tuff dawg. I don't know how good they are by you can do an internet search of 455 olds crate engines. Your other option is to find a machine shop to build you one, as stated above. I would not use a jobber shop.
#7
http://btrperformance.com/
Bill Trovato is close enough that the freight to ship to Mass. shouldn't kill that bad.
He doesn't do crate motors, but is one of the best in the Olds world and will build you what you want.
Bill Trovato is close enough that the freight to ship to Mass. shouldn't kill that bad.
He doesn't do crate motors, but is one of the best in the Olds world and will build you what you want.
#8
Let's get some definitions straight first. "Crate motor" has become about as misused as "numbers matching". The term originally was used to refer to BRAND NEW motors built from brand new castings being sold by the factories IN CRATES (hence the term). Today the term is pretty much used to refer to any rebuilt engine, so it's meaningless.
As for true Olds crate motors, obviously GM isn't selling any. Very rarely an NOS Olds long block in the crate will show up on ebay (there's a V6 diesel on there now ). Anything else will be a rebuild, no matter what someone calls it, since there are no new Olds castings. Many people sell rebuilt Olds motors in various states from stock to modified.
As for true Olds crate motors, obviously GM isn't selling any. Very rarely an NOS Olds long block in the crate will show up on ebay (there's a V6 diesel on there now ). Anything else will be a rebuild, no matter what someone calls it, since there are no new Olds castings. Many people sell rebuilt Olds motors in various states from stock to modified.
#9
Here is a place in NY maybe it will not be a long drive
http://www.oldsperformanceproducts.com/aboutus.asp
http://www.oldsperformanceproducts.com/aboutus.asp
#10
Whats your budget and how much power are you looking for. I have a friend who builds wicked motors and just got done building a bad *** street motor. 526HP and 589 TQ Im sure this motor could be bought, he doesnt have a use for it, just built it to build it. http://realoldspower.prophpbb.com/topic830.html
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#15
http://btrperformance.com/
Bill Trovato is close enough that the freight to ship to Mass. shouldn't kill that bad.
He doesn't do crate motors, but is one of the best in the Olds world and will build you what you want.
Bill Trovato is close enough that the freight to ship to Mass. shouldn't kill that bad.
He doesn't do crate motors, but is one of the best in the Olds world and will build you what you want.
#16
Andy is a first class liar. Had a friend have him do a factory steel crank to put in a 496. Who ever he farmed it out to couldn't even cut it straight. Throw one crank away. All the good shops in that area won't work for him. Repackages & sells parts as his own manufactured. Need any more?
#18
Andy is a first class liar. Had a friend have him do a factory steel crank to put in a 496. Who ever he farmed it out to couldn't even cut it straight. Throw one crank away. All the good shops in that area won't work for him. Repackages & sells parts as his own manufactured. Need any more?
#19
http://www.cdpautomachine.com/engine...longblock.html
Found this guy in Groton, CT. Not vouching for him because I don't know them at all. Just one of a few that do make so called 'crate engines' for Olds.
There are also many who make engine kits (internals) if you have a block. Just need a good machine shop.
I will vouch for Michael at ABT Machine in Holliston, MA. http://abtmachine.com/ Great work and experience.
Found this guy in Groton, CT. Not vouching for him because I don't know them at all. Just one of a few that do make so called 'crate engines' for Olds.
There are also many who make engine kits (internals) if you have a block. Just need a good machine shop.
I will vouch for Michael at ABT Machine in Holliston, MA. http://abtmachine.com/ Great work and experience.
Last edited by TripDeuces; June 16th, 2013 at 05:41 PM.
#20
http://www.cdpautomachine.com/engine...longblock.html
Found this guy in Groton, CT. Not vouching for him because I don't know them at all. Just one of a few that do make so called 'crate engines' for Olds.
There are also many who make engine kits (internals) if you have a block. Just need a good machine shop.
I will vouch for Michael at ABT Machine in Holliston, MA. http://abtmachine.com/ Great work and experience.
Found this guy in Groton, CT. Not vouching for him because I don't know them at all. Just one of a few that do make so called 'crate engines' for Olds.
There are also many who make engine kits (internals) if you have a block. Just need a good machine shop.
I will vouch for Michael at ABT Machine in Holliston, MA. http://abtmachine.com/ Great work and experience.
#21
#22
You can easily find a good local 455 core. There are a bunch of Olds guys in the Boston area.
I think this is probably Joe Mc-something (I've got his contact info somewhere). He says he has 455 cores for $300. Probably J heads but I'm sure for a little more you can get decent heads
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pts/3873048785.html
Here's one for $600.
http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/pts/3873342042.html
I pretty sure this is John De-something (I've got his contact info somewhere too)
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pts/3881297081.html
BTW did you happen to get that 72 W30 in Hyannis?
I think this is probably Joe Mc-something (I've got his contact info somewhere). He says he has 455 cores for $300. Probably J heads but I'm sure for a little more you can get decent heads
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pts/3873048785.html
Here's one for $600.
http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/pts/3873342042.html
I pretty sure this is John De-something (I've got his contact info somewhere too)
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pts/3881297081.html
BTW did you happen to get that 72 W30 in Hyannis?
Last edited by allyolds68; June 21st, 2013 at 01:06 PM.
#25
You're not the only one........
I've never personally dealt with him. I'm not sure if that's him in the Pawtucket ad. There's a post from the person selling that stuff on the Facebook OCA page and the person's name isn't Joe. I figured that being in Pawtucket he had to have something to do with it though
So did your car come from the Cape? The reason I ask is the owner of a certain marina had one identical to yours in his yard for years. Or are you that person?
I've never personally dealt with him. I'm not sure if that's him in the Pawtucket ad. There's a post from the person selling that stuff on the Facebook OCA page and the person's name isn't Joe. I figured that being in Pawtucket he had to have something to do with it though
So did your car come from the Cape? The reason I ask is the owner of a certain marina had one identical to yours in his yard for years. Or are you that person?
Last edited by allyolds68; June 21st, 2013 at 07:56 PM.
#26
Yeah, that's the correct Joe. His warehouse is in Pawtucket, he lives in Norton, Ma. My 442 came from Minnesota appx. 5 years ago. I drove out & trailered it back to Mass. No I'm not that person. I'm poor LOL.
#27
I have an opportunity to purchase a set of "C" heads off a 1968 Cutlass. What are some thoughts on doing this? What would need to be done to them before bolting on? Supposedly they are all set & I can just bolt them on & go. Please share your thoughts if you've had experience dealing with these heads.
Are stock "C" heads the best to use?
Thanks
Are stock "C" heads the best to use?
Thanks
Last edited by 442b; June 29th, 2013 at 10:07 AM.
#28
I have an opportunity to purchase a set of "C" heads off a 1968 Cutlass. What are some thoughts on doing this? What would need to be done to them before bolting on? Supposedly they are all set & I can just bolt them on & go. Please share your thoughts if you've had experience dealing with these heads.
Are stock "C" heads the best to use?
Thanks
Are stock "C" heads the best to use?
Thanks
#29
Hi Joe - I'm glad you're asking the questions, I know from reading some of your post that I can be sure you know what your talking about. The person will take $300. for them. Supposedly they are off a 1968.
Here's a quote from the seller/ "big valve C heads off a 1968 455. There 79cc , have brand new Lunati valve springs good to .550 lift cams. Lunati retainers and locks."
So what am I to think, Joe - What's your suggestion here? Thanks
Here's a quote from the seller/ "big valve C heads off a 1968 455. There 79cc , have brand new Lunati valve springs good to .550 lift cams. Lunati retainers and locks."
So what am I to think, Joe - What's your suggestion here? Thanks
#30
Hi Joe - I'm glad you're asking the questions, I know from reading some of your post that I can be sure you know what your talking about. The person will take $300. for them. Supposedly they are off a 1968.
Here's a quote from the seller/ "big valve C heads off a 1968 455. There 79cc , have brand new Lunati valve springs good to .550 lift cams. Lunati retainers and locks."
So what am I to think, Joe - What's your suggestion here? Thanks
Here's a quote from the seller/ "big valve C heads off a 1968 455. There 79cc , have brand new Lunati valve springs good to .550 lift cams. Lunati retainers and locks."
So what am I to think, Joe - What's your suggestion here? Thanks
#31
Joe - I have sourced a different set of "C" heads. These are off a 455. They are used heads that will need a valve job done on by my builder & will also be ported & polished. Are "C" Heads the most desired "Stock" heads? I can't remember if it's C's or E's. My motor is going to be rebuilt again, this time by someone who has a lot of experience with Oldsmobile's & 455's. You may have heard of him? "Steve Lapointe". He's from Rehoboth, Ma. Anyway, I want to put the best Stock heads on I can, I can't afford to go Aluminum considering this is the second time in less than 2500 miles I'm rebuilding this motor. Thanks for any info you can provide.
Last edited by 442b; July 4th, 2013 at 06:12 PM.
#32
C-heads are the best-flowing commonly available BBO heads (I would argue that D, F, and H heads are more "desired"). The reality is that the flow differences between any two BBO castings except for Js are pretty minor. I understand the finance issue, but if the ready-to-bolt-on iron heads start getting close to $1000, you should really think about Bernard Mondello's ProComps.
#33
#34
455
I have just rebuilt a 455 and i am in Mass.
The motor is for sale.
I built it to sell, and I just enjoy building motors.
some spec's
.030 over 9to1 comp.
crank was ground .010/.010
GA heads -Big valves were installed as were hardened exhaust seats.
Roller rockers w/guide plates
Comp cams Mild thumper cam specs to follow
High volume oil pump
Milodon oil pan
Pro comp Distributor
Edelbrock Torker manifold
Holley 750 vac. seconderies.
The motor is on a stand and you can hear it run.
P.M. me if your interested
The motor is for sale.
I built it to sell, and I just enjoy building motors.
some spec's
.030 over 9to1 comp.
crank was ground .010/.010
GA heads -Big valves were installed as were hardened exhaust seats.
Roller rockers w/guide plates
Comp cams Mild thumper cam specs to follow
High volume oil pump
Milodon oil pan
Pro comp Distributor
Edelbrock Torker manifold
Holley 750 vac. seconderies.
The motor is on a stand and you can hear it run.
P.M. me if your interested
#38
C-heads are the best-flowing commonly available BBO heads (I would argue that D, F, and H heads are more "desired"). The reality is that the flow differences between any two BBO castings except for Js are pretty minor. I understand the finance issue, but if the ready-to-bolt-on iron heads start getting close to $1000, you should really think about Bernard Mondello's ProComps.
#39
Again, with the exception of J heads, all BBO heads flow about the same. You won't really feel a difference on a street car.
#40
455 for sale
I sent you a PM a few last week when you made your post. I have not heard back from you. Where are you from? What internal parts did you use? Pistons? Rods? Ect.......
Dropping my motor off today..... Looks like you may have missed a sale.