These C heads are suppose to be from a 1967 442

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Old March 18th, 2022, 09:17 AM
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These C heads are suppose to be from a 1967 442

Are they correct?
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Old March 18th, 2022, 09:19 AM
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The one with the V is but can't say if the other was or not.
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Old March 18th, 2022, 10:29 AM
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The second head has no numbers V ###### on the end only one but they both are C and have 894 548
I think i remember hearing only one head has that number on the side of the head.
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Old March 18th, 2022, 10:45 AM
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So I assume V is for 442
what is 22315 1 G
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Old March 18th, 2022, 12:15 PM
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V = High Compression
G = 442 400
22315= serial number( This # would only show on a protecto plate if you had one. Matches nothing else)
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Old March 18th, 2022, 03:53 PM
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If they're same casting # and valve head diameters are the same, probably a matched set.
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Old March 18th, 2022, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 68442
V = High Compression
G = 442 400
22315= serial number( This # would only show on a protecto plate if you had one. Matches nothing else)
I have no protecto plate ;-(
But what is the 1 that's in between the 5 and the G ?
is the serial number 223151?

Thanks for this "good to know" information.

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Originally Posted by ggoudas
I have no protecto plate ;-(
But what is the 1 that's in between the 5 and the G ?
is the serial number 223151?

Thanks for this "good to know" information.
Oh sorry missed that, It's part of the serial number not separate.
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Old March 18th, 2022, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ggoudas
I have no protecto plate ;-(
But what is the 1 that's in between the 5 and the G ?
is the serial number 223151?

Thanks for this "good to know" information.
V2 is 67 442 400 engine
G is high compression as previously stated. The 400 2 barrel turnpike cruiser doesn't have the G
23151 is not the vin # but the engine sequence production #
V0 is 65 442
V1 is 66 442 The tri carb engine has a T stamping @ the end of the engine sequence production #.
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Old May 26th, 2022, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
V2 is 67 442 400 engine
G is high compression as previously stated. The 400 2 barrel turnpike cruiser doesn't have the G
23151 is not the vin # but the engine sequence production #
V0 is 65 442
V1 is 66 442 The tri carb engine has a T stamping @ the end of the engine sequence production #.
Ok so I have 1967 442 heads.
what about the block?
I have 390925E so I believe it is a 1967 400 block that came with those heads
In the back I see F 6
Near distributer I see 6
114
What about the crank
The crank has #384722
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Old May 26th, 2022, 02:53 PM
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The E casting could be either 1966 or 67.

For the people who still think that the mold number at the back of the block somehow relates to the year, I'm interested to find out what a "6" on an E block means.

114 means the 114th day of the year, either 1966 or 1967.
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Old May 27th, 2022, 05:48 AM
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what crank is in this 400 E block

Here is a pic of the F 6 in the back of the 1967 E 400 block and the date code.
Also attached it a pic of the crank



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Old May 29th, 2022, 11:02 PM
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Just caught this.

My ‘66 98 has “B” California smog port heads. Smog bumps long since ground off and blocked - probably 35-40 years ago. And blocked off with plumbing pipe, like you do.

My ‘66 Starfire has 49 state (non-smog) “E” heads, which I’d always thought of as 1970 or so. I wonder if the Starfire engine is original to the car? When I bought it in the 90’s the E-headed 455 was painted blue, so I figured it was not original. So if E heads were made in ‘66-67, could be the engine was just redone, could be original heads, but later short block, or some other thing.

Any suggestions on how to chase this down? I’ve never been a real numbers-matching stickler guy, but maybe I have a numbers matching…

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Old May 30th, 2022, 06:23 AM
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E heads are 1970. There's no fuzz on that. A 455 is 1968-76, also no fuzz. The block will have a VIN derivative stamp that will tell you the model year.
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Old May 30th, 2022, 07:42 AM
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Joe,
Thanks for confirming. Always thought the ‘66 S/F had a ‘70 era 455 as described by the seller.

For a moment there I was feeling bad about my modifications, back to normal “let’s innovate mildly” mode now.

One of these days I’ll have to locate that VIN derivative stamp. Is it the one behind the water pump on the front of the block? And since I know it’s a swapped in engine, can I work back from the derivative stamp to figure out where it came from?

Highest likelihood is a later big car, never have come across anything indicating it was a Toro engine or anything rare.

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Old May 30th, 2022, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by cfair
One of these days I’ll have to locate that VIN derivative stamp. Is it the one behind the water pump on the front of the block? And since I know it’s a swapped in engine, can I work back from the derivative stamp to figure out where it came from?
Depending on the year and assembly plant, you can sometimes derive initial application info from a VIN derivative. For example, if the assembly plant only built full size cars during that model year, you'll be able to determine that.





In this case, it's a 1972 Lansing block, but since the sequence number starts with 5xxxxx, it's a full size. For 1972, A-body cars from Lansing were 100001-400000, full size were 400001-700000, and Toros were 700001-up.


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Looking on this site, the crank #384722 looks to be a 1967 crank number but what is this made of,
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Old June 6th, 2022, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ggoudas
Looking on this site, the crank #384722 looks to be a 1967 crank number but what is this made of,
All 1967-earlier cranks are forged
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Old June 6th, 2022, 06:22 PM
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Joe,
Thanks for the pointers.

Looks like I’ve gotta get up under the ‘66 PS pump on my driver’s side head to figure out what that 455 really is.

I never had any illusions about it being original, but am getting curiouser about where it came from.

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