any information on 1971 w30 production numbers?

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Old December 20th, 2008, 07:22 PM
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any information on 1971 w30 production numbers?

I was wondering if there was a way to determine how many 4 speed w30's were made. I have seen the numbers listing the numbers for convertibles and hardtops etc, but never broke down any further. I had a friend tell me there was a 71 in hemmings that said one of 265? or something close to that. I figured one of you guys would know.
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1971 W-30:
Hardtop 4-spd 247 Auto 563 total 810
Convert 4-spd 32 Auto 78 total 110

total 910
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Originally Posted by wmachine
1971 W-30:
Hardtop 4-spd 247 Auto 563 total 810
Convert 4-spd 32 Auto 78 total 110

total 910
That's what I have too.
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Old June 20th, 2017, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MN71W30
I was wondering if there was a way to determine how many 4 speed w30's were made. I have seen the numbers listing the numbers for convertibles and hardtops etc, but never broke down any further. I had a friend tell me there was a 71 in hemmings that said one of 265? or something close to that. I figured one of you guys would know.
Thanks for any help.

P.S. you better get out and buy your wife something for Christmas, ASAP
Where do you find production numbers on older cars?
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Old June 20th, 2017, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by stationwagonguy1
Where do you find production numbers on older cars?
If you mean Oldsmobile production records, those would have come from Oldsmobile in response to direct questions.

Over the years, people have aggregated the responses and some production numbers, broken out by option, are known.

Subsequently, there was a fire at an Olds warehouse that destroyed their records.
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production by option

Originally Posted by VC455
If you mean Oldsmobile production records, those would have come from Oldsmobile in response to direct questions.

Over the years, people have aggregated the responses and some production numbers, broken out by option, are known.

Subsequently, there was a fire at an Olds warehouse that destroyed their records.

The ONLY production numbers by option is auto vs manual.


There is NO record of production based on any other options only guesses.
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Originally Posted by oldsmobiledave
The ONLY production numbers by option is auto vs manual.


There is NO record of production based on any other options only guesses.
^^THIS. When someone claims that their car is "1 of 48 in this color" or some other such incredibly precise number, they are pegging the BS meter. Even worse is when the seller claims "one of only three known to exist" or something like that. There is no possible way to know how many still exist.

By the way, nice resurrection of a thread that's nearly a decade old...
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
^^THIS. When someone claims that their car is "1 of 48 in this color" or some other such incredibly precise number, they are pegging the BS meter. Even worse is when the seller claims "one of only three known to exist" or something like that. There is no possible way to know how many still exist.

By the way, nice resurrection of a thread that's nearly a decade old...

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Old June 21st, 2017, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Asusport
In my signature, I cite that my car is one of two remaining that are known to exist. I don't think this statement is BS at all. It is based on OCA data collected on 1964 442s and some in general Internet research where I have not been able to turn up even another one....

Of course my car wasn't even known to exist by anyone except for the owner and her immediate family until it hit craigslist late last year but I don't think it is too extreme to cite such numbers if I can provide context and source data. Maybe BS in some cases but I don't think my statement is far fetched...
You just made my point. No one has any idea how many are still out there. If it makes you feel better to claim it is 1 of 2 left, knock yourself out. "Internet research" is not even close to proof of this. I can guarantee that several of the rare cars I own (like my 68 W-30) do not show up on any list of "surviving cars".

Why do people even need to make unsubstantiated claims like this? The 148 production number is documented. Admittedly few survive. Is that number 2 or 5 or 25? No one knows. No one can possibly know.
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Thank you for all your input - it is greatly appreciated and very helpful.




Originally Posted by joe_padavano
You just made my point. No one has any idea how many are still out there. If it makes you feel better to claim it is 1 of 2 left, knock yourself out. "Internet research" is not even close to proof of this. I can guarantee that several of the rare cars I own (like my 68 W-30) do not show up on any list of "surviving cars".

Why do people even need to make unsubstantiated claims like this? The 148 production number is documented. Admittedly few survive. Is that number 2 or 5 or 25? No one knows. No one can possibly know.

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On a similar note, were 1971 442 W30 assembled at each assembly location, or just Lansing?
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Originally Posted by Kaline
On a similar note, were 1971 442 W30 assembled at each assembly location, or just Lansing?
W cars were just Lansing-built. "Basic" 442s were at any Olds A-body assembly plant.

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