Remember that $300k+ W-30 rag at Scottsdale?
November 18th, 2014, 06:03 AM
#161
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Well. I guess I have some "'splainin'' to do, and YES, I have some egg on my face. Seems the info. I was given is/was no more true than the documents accompanying this car. Very unfortunate that this type of stuff happens to what is supposed to be fun.
"Oh, what a web we weave....."
Sorry guys.
"Oh, what a web we weave....."
Sorry guys.
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November 18th, 2014, 06:14 PM
#163
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This is why I would never buy a car whose value is determined by a bunch of pieces of paper.
If I wanted to spend thousands of dollars on pieces of paper, I'd collect stamps.
- Eric
If I wanted to spend thousands of dollars on pieces of paper, I'd collect stamps.
- Eric
March 12th, 2017, 11:18 AM
#164
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Documentation
[Got a 70 SX W-32 Convertible and my wife has a 71 Supreme Hardtop and was thinking a maybe making a window sticker for her. Would it be possible to get the measurements of yours, That would be awesome! Thanx!]71442docs010.jpg71442docs012.jpg
March 12th, 2017, 11:26 PM
#166
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1. Those "documents" all look like they were aged in the same bucket at the same time.
Obvious BS. I am amazed and appalled that anyone would fall for them.
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These "documented" cars are no better, and honestly should be no more valuable than any other car of a similar restoration level / quality.
A fully restored L6 F-85 post with rubber floor mats is, with a very few parts differences, the same exact car as a W-30 (or an LS6 Chevelle), and the differences in values reflect the whims of a bunch of rich people throwing their money around, and have absolutely NO basis in the actual, intrinsic value of the vehicle itself.
Yes, "what the market will bear," "what someone else is willing to pay," and all that, but these cars are, at the most basic level, mass-produced American pieces of junk, made by a huge corporation looking to make all the profit it could, designed by penny-pinching engineers, churned out by a bunch of guys who mostly didn't give a damn, working in a huge factory with sloppy tolerances, with a high rate of warranty claims after they were sold.
These are not Dusenbergs or Maseratis that were slowly and-built by obsessive craftsmen, or even Porsches that were designed and mass-produced by fanatic "ex"-*****.
They were designed to last five years in good condition, maybe another five if you were lucky and didn't mind driving a rustbucket, and then be thrown away.
They are valuable now, in part because it's so improbable that any survived at all.
- Eric
Obvious BS. I am amazed and appalled that anyone would fall for them.
.
These "documented" cars are no better, and honestly should be no more valuable than any other car of a similar restoration level / quality.
A fully restored L6 F-85 post with rubber floor mats is, with a very few parts differences, the same exact car as a W-30 (or an LS6 Chevelle), and the differences in values reflect the whims of a bunch of rich people throwing their money around, and have absolutely NO basis in the actual, intrinsic value of the vehicle itself.
Yes, "what the market will bear," "what someone else is willing to pay," and all that, but these cars are, at the most basic level, mass-produced American pieces of junk, made by a huge corporation looking to make all the profit it could, designed by penny-pinching engineers, churned out by a bunch of guys who mostly didn't give a damn, working in a huge factory with sloppy tolerances, with a high rate of warranty claims after they were sold.
These are not Dusenbergs or Maseratis that were slowly and-built by obsessive craftsmen, or even Porsches that were designed and mass-produced by fanatic "ex"-*****.
They were designed to last five years in good condition, maybe another five if you were lucky and didn't mind driving a rustbucket, and then be thrown away.
They are valuable now, in part because it's so improbable that any survived at all.
- Eric
Documentation
December 2nd, 2017, 07:00 PM
#168
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This "documentation" thing seems like a cloud. I have to wonder what "documentation" I should be searching for in my car.
I ordered a 1970 Olds 4-4-2, W-30 and picked it up on April 23rd 1970. I have the car tucked away in the garage. I think the protecto plate is still there, and I recall taking the back seat out and finding "some paper" (which I put back before reinstalling the seat). From reading this thread, I now know what a "broadcast card" is. I think the window sticker got ruined when removed, but I am not sure.
RALPH
I ordered a 1970 Olds 4-4-2, W-30 and picked it up on April 23rd 1970. I have the car tucked away in the garage. I think the protecto plate is still there, and I recall taking the back seat out and finding "some paper" (which I put back before reinstalling the seat). From reading this thread, I now know what a "broadcast card" is. I think the window sticker got ruined when removed, but I am not sure.
RALPH
December 2nd, 2017, 07:07 PM
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Check the front seat(s) as well.....broadcast cards commonly found hog-ringed to the seat frame behind the bucket seat plastic back or possibly slipped into the underside area.
Also pull both door sill plates and check under the carpet....not uncommon to find a broadcast card slipped under the carpet typically near the front floorwell area.
If you're real industrious pull both halves of the carpet up (or just lift up and look) and see if there are any other forms, "docs", etc slipped in under there....both front and rear carpets.
Also pull both door sill plates and check under the carpet....not uncommon to find a broadcast card slipped under the carpet typically near the front floorwell area.
If you're real industrious pull both halves of the carpet up (or just lift up and look) and see if there are any other forms, "docs", etc slipped in under there....both front and rear carpets.
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