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found this car last year made a trip there this weekend and took some pictures, what do you guy think, I am pretty convinced it is real inspection sticker is from 1974. I can buy it for 500.00 to 700.00 depends on how big of a project it is for the owner to get access to it.
Hard to tell the condition without more photos. But I'm an optimist, and a pack rat... so I'd drag it home for that price. And while your at it you might as well grab that Vista Cruiser too!
Hard to tell the condition without more photos. But I'm an optimist, and a pack rat... so I'd drag it home for that price. And while your at it you might as well grab that Vista Cruiser too!
me too lol
hey hey what’s that bracket welded to the frame by the brake Lines ?
And the gusset seen near the A-arm bushing. Those were put on manual transmission cars too, beefing up the connection of the frame rails and the crossmember under the engine.
315442, is the trim tag there, on the firewall above the master cylinder area? I'm curious if it has the B09 code on it?
2L on trim tag indicates a 4spd car. Trunk lid emblems holes look good, thing is what will it take to bring this car back? It may be too far gone sadly.... I do not think B-09 ever showed up on the trim tag on 64 442's. 2L is a great start.
the car is pretty well picked over. steering column, pedals, bucket seat brackets, shifter hump, front clip are all gone. it does have all the glass in the car, dashboard, body side trim, rearend is still under it but had been buried for many years. someone could make a very authentic tribute 442 with what is left. sad to see this car in this condition, the owner of the yard says that most of the cars are from military personnel from nearby fort drum that were from other states and when their car took a dump they just scrapped them. out of the some 7000 cars there, very few are wrecks. I have probably taken 8 trips there and still don't think I have seen everything there.
According to the late 64 442 expert, the B09 was usually chalked on the inside of the right fender. Since the fenders are missing, I would say there is no way to absolutely ID the car as a genuine 64 442.
I HAve been following another thread on 64 442 frames I would like the frame code just for research lol
Originally Posted by Keener
Looking more closely, I notice that your frame has a "2-S" stamp rather than "N-1" like CRH's 64 442 frame. Of note, my Fremont built 64 442 frame is dated 4-3-64 and has the "N-1" like CRHs frame; not sure if this is meaningful or irrelevant. Could the "N-1" designate 442 frame. It would be nice to hear from other 64 4-speed owners. Btw, your car was built last week of April, while mine was built third week of April. Strange that our cars, if the frames are the same between 442 and non-442, would not have the same production date and codes.
I think they found one where the it claims to have the S code
the price of scrap has nothing to do with this car. the problem is it is 15 cars deep in all directions would have to move probably 5 or 6 surrounding car to get it out. I will make a phone call this week to see what the bottom line is on this car. the next issue is there has been a lot of rain lately and winter is a short time away. this area gets over 150'' of lake effect snow in the winter. last year one of the 2 brothers did not seem at all interested in moving it,, the other one said he might be interested, might take a few racks of Budweiser to get them both interested. I will make a call and see what the deal is,, I would imagine not until next spring. on a side note I scored a 1970 442 last week with an oai hood and rear spoiler factory sebring yellow for $3700.00 clams.
the price of scrap has nothing to do with this car. the problem is it is 15 cars deep in all directions would have to move probably 5 or 6 surrounding car to get it out.
Rent a front end loader.
Seriously.
I agree, that car is almost certainly the real deal.
Unfortunately you're going to have to wash the registration through another state because you'll never get clear paperwork for it in NY.
As far as getting to it, I agree with Joe, a loader and forks is the way to go. In 15 minutes you'll have the rest of the cars moved and that one on a trailer
[QUOTE=allyolds68;1053094]Unfortunately you're going to have to wash the registration through another state because you'll never get clear paperwork for it in NY.
As far as getting to it, I agree with Joe, a loader and forks is the way to go. In 15 minutes you'll have the rest of the cars moved and that one on a trailer[/
getting paperwork in NY is pretty easy to do. you need a pencil trace of the vin tag, take the car somewhere they have certified scales and get a weight slip. go to the DMV with this and an insurance card you will be issued paperwork on the spot to drive car, then it takes 6-10 weeks for the state to do a search on the vin number, if it checks out good you will get the documents in the mail. I have done this 3 times in my life, never had a problem.
That's a good find and all odds are in favor of a real 64 442. Sad to see the car has been picked over for parts, but what can you expect if sitting since 1974. Surprised the yard didn't crush it for scrap several years ago. Anyway, someone mentioned fenders, and although the B09 was placed on the inner fender to alert production crew to place a template for stamping emblem holes, many of the cars I've seen over the years no longer have these markings. So, it is not a deal breaker if someone finds a car without these markings. In this case, you will never know because the fender are gone.
If you get the car and are not interested in fixing it up, contact me and I'll take it off your hands.
getting paperwork in NY is pretty easy to do. you need a pencil trace of the vin tag, take the car somewhere they have certified scales and get a weight slip. go to the DMV with this and an insurance card you will be issued paperwork on the spot to drive car, then it takes 6-10 weeks for the state to do a search on the vin number, if it checks out good you will get the documents in the mail. I have done this 3 times in my life, never had a problem.
I've had that work with a trailer but never a car. DMV told me if they can't find the car in the system, they can't issue a registration, and NY doesn't keep info on registrations back to the 70's
I for for one would love to build this car! Perfect candidate for a what if 400 transplant.
Originally Posted by allyolds68
I've had that work with a trailer but never a car. DMV told me if they can't find the car in the system, they can't issue a registration, and NY doesn't keep info on registrations back to the 70's
I for for one would love to build this car! Perfect candidate for a what if 400 transplant.
Why would you swap a 400 into a legit '64 4-4-2 after going through all that effort to bring it back from the dead? If that's what you want to do, why not just find a Cutlass and stuff a BBO in it?
I for for one would love to build this car! Perfect candidate for a what if 400 transplant.
A stock appearing stroker small block would be a better alternative in my opinion. The 330 can take a 0.030 350 bore (with a sonic check) then add one of the 4.00" stroker cranks. Instant respect.
A stock appearing stroker small block would be a better alternative in my opinion. The 330 can take a 0.030 350 bore (with a sonic check) then add one of the 4.00" stroker cranks. Instant respect.
Or, do it the easy way, as I am for my 64 Vista.
403 block, forged crank from the 330, BBO E heads with the legs ground off the E to make it a 1.
well well well, if your going to make your own version, better start off with a much better example and you guys know that, were just chatting. My 64 "post car' was in bad shape as many of know that's followed my thread but not like the one in the pictures!! I may sell mine next year and MAYBE build one more....
when I was there last year the drivers door would not open so I did not get a pic of the vin I did get a pic of the trim tag that has some of the vin on it.
There's nothing that really connects the VIN to the trim tag....except body style...the rest is body by fisher stuff...knowing the trim tag info doesnt help in know the VIN
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Would need to cut body up to locate VIN on the frame rail. That’s an enourmous effort though and unlikely given someone else owns the car. So, data tag will have to do.
Pretty unfortunate end to a cool car. Would have been nice to see it saved. I didn't know a yard like that existed up there. That would be a great little road trip one day. I see you are in Pennellville. I'm about 10 minutes from there.
uptown pville, really close to caudenoy dam, digging your red 73 442. I think I know where the tags went, local Syracuse classic car scammer. I keep you guys posted on what else I find out. what does the LA 18920 on the trim tag refer to?
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