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Old May 21st, 2017, 06:05 AM
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1978 442

There is a 78 442 notchback in pretty good shape nor far from me for sale.
I know it's an undesirable body style. I've researched what I can (I can't even find a value in NADA classic guide).
Is it worth even pursuing?????? In pretty good shape and has 442 wheels.
Thanks for anyones input.
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Old May 21st, 2017, 06:41 AM
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If you like it that's all it takes. There was one on cl near me for about 2 years in decent cond. price was down to around 1500 before it disappeared don't know if someone bought it or the seller gave up. Me personally I agree w your statement that it's an undesirable body style and I would wait to find an olds I like better.
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Old May 21st, 2017, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by firstoldsmobile
There is a 78 442 notchback in pretty good shape nor far from me for sale.
The only 442 body style offered in 1978 was the Aeroback. The notchbacks were Supremes.



I know it's an undesirable body style. I've researched what I can (I can't even find a value in NADA classic guide).
Better look again. The 442 was an option on the Cutlass Salon. Select the Salon 2dr, then select the 442 option from the options page.

Of course, NADA's prices are hilariously optimistic. They show a low of $4400 to a high of nearly $20K.



I'll also point out that NADA shows the 403 as an available engine option.
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Old May 21st, 2017, 09:33 AM
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Somebody needs to love ugly cars and it is an Oldsmobile. NADA is more than a little optimistic. From the firewall back it looks like it could have been an AMC car. Just my 2 cents worth,
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Originally Posted by redoldsman
NADA is more than a little optimistic.
Ya think?

From the firewall back it looks like it could have been an AMC car. Just my 2 cents worth,
You know, I never thought of the Pacer until you mentioned it...
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I don't know about desire for the style... But the photo Joe posted is a sharp looking vehicle, and even I might be tempted to have one in my stable for the right price...
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Old May 22nd, 2017, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CRUZN 66
I don't know about desire for the style... But the photo Joe posted is a sharp looking vehicle, and even I might be tempted to have one in my stable for the right price...
Sadly, the top of the line engine was the "Type C" 305. The only available Olds motor was the pavement ripping 260.
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Old May 22nd, 2017, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Sadly, the top of the line engine was the "Type C" 305. The only available Olds motor was the pavement ripping 260.
Well at least since Olds V8 hardware is available, and originality as opposed to value is not a major issue for that style vehicle, a nice stealthy 350 wouldn't hurt...
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Old May 22nd, 2017, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by CRUZN 66
Well at least since Olds V8 hardware is available, and originality as opposed to value is not a major issue for that style vehicle, a nice stealthy 350 wouldn't hurt...
Why stop there?

A 403 is equally stealthy.
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Old May 22nd, 2017, 01:23 PM
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One thing for sure, when you drove that to any car show you will be the only one there with one at any show and cruise in. May not be the most desirable, but easily customize able power train wise.
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Old May 22nd, 2017, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Why stop there?

A 403 is equally stealthy.
Again you're right Joe... Why stop there??? I have a few spare 455's sitting around... I know, A little more work, But I think I could handle it...
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 12:06 AM
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Today they'd call that a crossover..
I'd like to see one with the 82 up nose header etc..
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by midnightleadfoot
Today they'd call that a crossover..
I'd like to see one with the 82 up nose header etc..
The new nose came out in 1981, and it won't work due to differences in the fender shape, wheel opening shape, etc. You can probably force it to fit, but like most of the Olds/Elco conversions, the rear fenders won't match the fronts.
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
The new nose came out in 1981, and it won't work due to differences in the fender shape, wheel opening shape, etc. You can probably force it to fit, but like most of the Olds/Elco conversions, the rear fenders won't match the fronts.
but it does match the door and hood.. iirc the door skin is the same.
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by midnightleadfoot
but it does match the door and hood.. iirc the door skin is the same.
Look again. Note the feature line on the 78 door just below the 442 logo that is not on the newer car. Also obviously the wheel openings aren't even close to the same shape.


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Old May 23rd, 2017, 08:18 AM
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Nothing a little hammer and dolly can't change..
Kinda like this..
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by midnightleadfoot
Nothing a little hammer and dolly can't change..
Kinda like this..
And as I noted above, the problem with all of those conversions is that the rear wheel openings are completely different from the front wheel openings. You may be fine with that, but to me it looks half-fast. Frankly, I have a hard time with the slope nose on the Aeroback body anyway. Even the G-body Elco conversion would look better with the flat wagon front end and grille.
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 09:07 AM
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my A body monte camino was have assed.?
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by midnightleadfoot
my A body monte camino was have assed.?
I was referring to the Olds version in the third photo. Adding the Monte quarters and fender lines is obviously a lot of work but necessary to make it look right.
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 09:22 AM
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note it isn't finished yet or painted..
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CRUZN 66
I don't know about desire for the style... But the photo Joe posted is a sharp looking vehicle, and even I might be tempted to have one in my stable for the right price...
I'm with this.
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