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Old June 27th, 2017, 04:45 PM
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Hoping for the best for you Rick. I've been popping in every once in a while to get your updates. You need a great ending to this and I know you have everyone here pulling for you.
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Old June 27th, 2017, 05:35 PM
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Is your machine guy located local to you?
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Old June 28th, 2017, 04:28 AM
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Well, we are definitely going to pull the motor. It could be as early as this weekend depending on the weather. I have some outdoor repairs I need to make on my house that I was going to work on but if it rains I'll be able to work on the car.
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Old June 28th, 2017, 04:33 AM
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Hoping for the best for you Rick. I've been popping in every once in a while to get your updates. You need a great ending to this and I know you have everyone here pulling for you.
Thanks Bill.

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Yep, he's local
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Old June 28th, 2017, 04:43 AM
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Rick, sorry to hear that. Hope it is a quick fix. You have put a lot of time and effort into this project, it looks great, and it should be time to enjoy the ride.
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Old June 28th, 2017, 06:28 AM
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Yep, he's local
I know it don't help your situation now but if you do another engine and decide to go to another machine shop I would recommend Zimmerman Bros in Greensburg Indiana. He is expensive and has a waiting list but worth it in my opinion. I think it would be around an hour from Cincinnati. He is two hours from me but I will not go anywhere else now.

I sure hope it all goes well and back on the road soon.
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Old June 28th, 2017, 10:53 AM
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I know it don't help your situation now but if you do another engine and decide to go to another machine shop I would recommend Zimmerman Bros in Greensburg Indiana. He is expensive and has a waiting list but worth it in my opinion. I think it would be around an hour from Cincinnati. He is two hours from me but I will not go anywhere else now.

I sure hope it all goes well and back on the road soon.
Thanks Eric. I'll keep everyone posted.
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Old August 7th, 2017, 01:56 PM
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Not good News

Pulled the motor out over the weekend and it doesn't look good. Lots of metal flakes where they don't belong. The crank and rod bearings are wiped out. Not sure at this point what happened. We are going to wash everything out, hone the cylinders a bit and replace what needs to be replaced. Thought about having the crank ground but my buddy is going to fix me up with a replacement. I'm keeping a positive attitude about everything because at this point, too much time and money has been spent to be bitter. I'm looking forward to getting the motor back in and cruising once again.
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Old August 7th, 2017, 04:14 PM
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Sorry to hear the news Rick. I hope the remedy works for you and you get back on the road quick.
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Old August 7th, 2017, 04:27 PM
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Not good at all . Is the builder going to work with you to make it right or are you taking it elsewhere?
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Old August 7th, 2017, 04:58 PM
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Sorry to hear the news Rick. I hope the remedy works for you and you get back on the road quick.
Thanks Tom. I think we'll be good to go this time. Everyone involved is committed to getting me back on the road again.

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Not good at all . Is the builder going to work with you to make it right or are you taking it elsewhere?
The machine shop is going to touch up the cylinders and hot tank it. I don't think they are charging me anything for that. John is going to assemble it this time so I'm confident it will be done correctly. I'm paying for parts and he's taking care of the labor.

The consensus between him and the machine shop is that there was some sort of oiling issue. There was nothing obvious that we could see caused the failure. I'm listening if someone has some possible causes for this type of thing to happen.

Hoping to have it back on a run stand this weekend and back in the car the following weekend. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Old August 7th, 2017, 08:17 PM
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Rick, I am sorry. That just stinks, particularly knowing how strong it was running. I am glad you and John are getting it figured out.

Did you use a high volume oil pump?
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Old August 8th, 2017, 11:19 AM
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Hey Rick, misery likes company - I got a call today that someone backed up into my car at the body shop causing damage to the right front fender, right side headlight area and the hood. I'll need to have the fender replaced they said. Oh well, I knew I would run into problems but I didn't expect this.
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Are you kidding me? That really sucks. Was it a customer or an employee of the shop? You're not going to be out any money are you?
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Rick, I am sorry. That just stinks, particularly knowing how strong it was running. I am glad you and John are getting it figured out.

Did you use a high volume oil pump?
No, I was told they are not used for stock/close to stock builds.
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No, I was told they are not used for stock/close to stock builds.
I don't use them on my builds either but I don't building much more than stock either. I do shim the standard pump 1/4 inch though.
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Are you kidding me? That really sucks. Was it a customer or an employee of the shop? You're not going to be out any money are you?
No, I shouldn't have any out of cost expense they said. It was a customer of theirs who was in a hurry when he backed up his car into mine. I posted for a 70 fender but I don't think I'll have the time to wait for one to materialize so I may have to place a 71-72 fender on her in the end.
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I don't use them on my builds either but I don't building much more than stock either. I do shim the standard pump 1/4 inch though.
What does the shim do Eric?

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No, I shouldn't have any out of cost expense they said. It was a customer of theirs who was in a hurry when he backed up his car into mine. I posted for a 70 fender but I don't think I'll have the time to wait for one to materialize so I may have to place a 71-72 fender on her in the end.
I'll keep an eye out for one Tom. Good luck
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I'll keep an eye out for one Tom. Good luck
Thanks Rick
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What does the shim do Eric?
It will increase the pressure a little
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Old August 8th, 2017, 02:02 PM
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No, I shouldn't have any out of cost expense they said. It was a customer of theirs who was in a hurry when he backed up his car into mine. I posted for a 70 fender but I don't think I'll have the time to wait for one to materialize so I may have to place a 71-72 fender on her in the end.
Ok, you two need to stop this, you guys are scaring me to death.

Tom, I cannot believe this, man am I sorry.
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No, I was told they are not used for stock/close to stock builds.

Ok, I do have one but high volume is not high pressure. To get the pressure up, you have to call Melling and ask for a purple spring. Just thought I would ask.
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Ok, you two need to stop this, you guys are scaring me to death.

Tom, I cannot believe this, man am I sorry.
Thanks Troy, I hope to get everything completed and have the car ready for Fall cruising.
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Thanks Troy, I hope to get everything completed and have the car ready for Fall cruising.
Tom, I sent you a pm.
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Put the rebuilt motor back in over the weekend. Took a total of fifteen days to pull the motor, tear down, order parts, clean up the cylinders, install new parts , reassemble and put back in the car. Not bad for a couple of guys with full time jobs. Decided to install the W-455 intake I had instead of the iron intake this time. Took care of some misc. items this evening and took her out for a spin. It's hard to believe it's the same motor. Totally different feel(much happier) than before. Starts on first crank and idles like it never did before. My body guy/mechanic really stepped up and kicked *** to make sure my cruising down time this summer was kept to a minimum. I can't thank my friend John at Dusty Boots Restorations enough. Planning on putting some miles on tomorrow and Friday after work then taking a short road trip to the Cynthiana Ky Rod run on Saturday. I'll post some pics soon of the new power plant.
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Sometimes the small dissapointments ultimately render a greater long term satisfaction. I regret not being able to see this car in NM, but am grateful to have met you in person. Please share some pics when you can. I'm glad you've made this project behave the way you had ultimately expected.
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Great news Rick, enjoy taking her out and I hope you have many trouble free miles are ahead of you.
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