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Old July 26th, 2015, 04:16 PM
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Algon Injected 455!

Saw this gasser up close today and its 455 Olds powered. Very cool!
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Old July 26th, 2015, 04:20 PM
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Man I'd love to have that intake manifold!!!!
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The rest of the car doesn't look too shabby either. Very cool.
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That is the absolute coolest thing I've ever seen on this site.
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Old July 29th, 2015, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cutlassefi
Man I'd love to have that intake manifold!!!!
X2 really cool.
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Is that Class Reunion?
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Old July 31st, 2015, 04:33 AM
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Man I'd love to have that intake manifold!!!!
I've got one. Planning on an EFI conversion. Yes, I have all the linkage and stacks.


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Old July 31st, 2015, 07:24 AM
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That is the absolute coolest thing I've ever seen on this site.

Pair it with those 180 degree headers that were on here a while back...
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Cool x 2 that is truly a thing of beauty.
The car is also very nice

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Old July 31st, 2015, 01:58 PM
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Way cool Thanks for sharing

Joe, what don't you have?
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Joe, what don't you have?
Let me guess:
Enough time.
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Old July 31st, 2015, 02:51 PM
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Joe, what's the brand/manufacture of that manifold?
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Greg and his wife are super nice folks.

I have one too, trying to out collect Joe. I only know of 3.

Here's mine:

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Joe and Boldsmobile...any chance either of you would consider selling one of these Algon units? I converted a Hilborn unit for use on a 394 in my 61 Olds Bubble-top. It turned heads everywhere I went. I need something like this for my 65 Olds 442 in order to outshine the BBC boys with FI. I'm not one of those "someday I'm going to get around to it" guys! I will get it done and be out there showing off a sweet stack type EFI on a stroker Big Block Olds by next summer if one of you would relent and let one go...
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Sorry, I bought this for a build. It wont be efi.

It's someday for me because the car its going on has two builds ahead of it. Good luck in your search
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More pics. I have a modified cam cover for the pump. The pump is also Algon

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Originally Posted by Boldsmobile
Sorry, I bought this for a build. It wont be efi.

It's someday for me because the car its going on has two builds ahead of it. Good luck in your search
How about showing us the car you plan on putting this fine example of a unique intake on.
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Old August 1st, 2015, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Stevec
Joe, what's the brand/manufacture of that manifold?
Algon, same as the one in the first post in this thread
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How about showing us the car you plan on putting this fine example of a unique intake on.
It's a 64 I pulled out of a used car dealer in the middle of no where. It's 3 on the list after my sons porsche track car and completion of a restoration on a 83 hurst olds with 53k miles. Life and work also get in the way. I fly over 100k miles a year , the last two years were a kitchen remodel and a new garage. I also lose two nights a week to racing on top of all that. I hope to retire by 55 so I can get my projects done.

The 64 was up on ROP before the last crash, as were a lot of posts on projects like hand fabricated OAI, my hurst build, tilt column dismantle, dual gate conversion, the race car I help build and maintain, Oldsmobile memorabilia , the girdle I designed and made, my intake collection - which is not as good as joes, and etc.

It will be a straight axle, 425, 4 speed. I've gathered every part I need for the build except for fender well headers which I will likely make myself.

Im frustratated that posts are not backed up. If admin wont take the time to make backups I won't take the time to restore lost posts.

I think the Hunts are great people but fell short on what I believe is a board admins responsibility.

Can you imagine the historical significance if the board still had all posts from all of the crashes? I lost count I believe its had 3 crashes. I think 2 of which were significant losses. I don't believe the most recent one was as catastrophic but recall it was offline for a few weeks.
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That girdle would be nice to have you post here in a different thread. Maybe your post might be saved here better. Do they do back up here?Seems they don't have a crash problem here.
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I assume It would be backed up here because this place is a business site first and an olds site second.

I've grown to dislike the owner of this site. Ill share my info privately to benefit someone in need, not publicly to make this business more valuable on the backs of enthusiasts. That's why I would post on ROP as the Hunts aren't in it for the money.

I haven't posted as much build and project related info here since the pops up have made it an awful browsing experience. Most of the devices I would use to get on here don't give me the ability to block. What I hate the most is the bent page corner at the bottom when you use an ipad. Hate it!!!!!
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I've done a bunch of IR 8 stacks, I love them.
Here's one I just finished. It's a 447 talldeck SBC from Nelson Racing engines. He paid 17K for it with a single plane, Holley Dominator and a 256@.050 solid roller. Wouldn't idle below 1100 rpm and he couldn't drive it, except at wot.
Now it idles at 800 all day. Any idea why guys?;-)


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Fuel injection can meter the flow better at lower rpm?
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What I hate the most is the bent page corner at the bottom when you use an ipad. Hate it!!!!!
well then you must really enjoy the new right side margin ad that makes all the posted info narrow and smaller ...

Im w you i dont have a lot of love for that bent corner page either.....MOF i switched to left side swiping because of it
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Originally Posted by 61reoldsman
Fuel injection can meter the flow better at lower rpm?

Hmmm not really. I'll give you a hint, it has more to do with the air than the fuel.
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I am sure if someone were to make some intakes similar to this one they could sell them Quickly. The Rat rodders as well as street rodders would love this intake. It is that
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Each cylinder has it's own stack ?
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Originally Posted by 61reoldsman
Each cylinder has it's own stack ?

You're right on the doorstep, why is that significant?
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Your killing me Mark !!!! lol.....you can fine tune the air -fuel and timing curves ?
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Originally Posted by cutlassefi
You're right on the doorstep, why is that significant?
Could it be ....... SATAN?!
Or maybe just velocity.
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Originally Posted by BlackGold
Could it be ....... SATAN?!
Or maybe just velocity.
Hint: Google hemholtz resonator volumetric efficiency

Remember this example?

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Hey Joe,

I had a guy that had the exact same setup on his Mopar. He wanted to go with 2 throttle bodies cuz that carb setup really didn't run too well once you put some cam in it.

I was hoping to get more responses, mainly from a few who are "more in the know".;-)
The sole reason for a smooth idle vs a conventional carbed intake is that in an IR or 8 stack system you don't have anymore "dirty" air. Each cylinder is isolated from the others pulses, overlap and reversion. Unlike a common plenum the only "dirty" air an IR system has is that between the intake valve and the butterfly. Reversion and intake dilution due to overlap is what causes the unsteady idling in large cammed applications. When you alleviate the cause you alleviate the problem.
That SBC in the video only has 9.75:1 compression with a 256@.050 solid roller on a 108 lobe sep. But with the 8 stack it'll idle at 800 all day, even with the A/C on. That's tough to beat.
And if anyone ever tunes one, you'll see the fuel curve is waaaay different than anything else.
They are a bitch to tune but imo they're the way to go with virtually any normally aspirated hot rod.

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Originally Posted by cutlassefi
Hey Joe,

I had a guy that had the exact same setup on his Mopar. He wanted to go with 2 throttle bodies cuz that carb setup really didn't run too well once you put some cam in it.

I was hoping to get more responses, mainly from a few who are "more in the know".;-)
The sole reason for a smooth idle vs a conventional carbed intake is that in an IR or 8 stack system you don't have anymore "dirty" air. Each cylinder is isolated from the others pulses, overlap and reversion. Unlike a common plenum the only "dirty" air an IR system has is that between the intake valve and the butterfly. Reversion and intake dilution due to overlap is what causes the unsteady idling in large cammed applications. When you alleviate the cause you alleviate the problem.
That SBC in the video only has 9.75:1 compression with a 256@.050 solid roller on a 108 lobe sep. But with the 8 stack it'll idle at 800 all day, even with the A/C on. That's tough to beat.
And if anyone ever tunes one, you'll see the fuel curve is waaaay different than anything else.
They are a bitch to tune but imo they're the way to go with virtually any normally aspirated hot rod.
Mark you brought up a good topic which leads me to start a new thread!
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Mark , you are too smart for me with this EFI stuff man !!
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This garage art might end up on my 496 pump gas motor.
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