ClassicOldsmobile.com Oldsmobile Enthusiast Community

Go Back   ClassicOldsmobile.com > Repair & Restoration > Body & Paint > Paint
Forums Gallery Encyclopedia Tech Olds Junction Register All Albums FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Used Cars


Welcome to Classic Oldsmobile Forum!
Welcome to Classic Oldsmobile forum,

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to start new topics, reply to conversations, privately message other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join Classic Oldsmobile Forum today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old November 29th, 2008, 06:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
scott_442
Registered User
 
scott_442's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 115
Lead paint concerns?

Somebody asked me this question a while back and I hadn't even stopped to think about it before. Anybody know to what extent lead paint was used by GM in the early seventies? When working under the hood and sanding brackets, supports and such for repainting, is it necessary to take any special precautions? I guess common sense says you should at least wear a dust mask but I don't always even do that. Most of my detail work is done under the hood as I'm not a body guy but I'm always sanding rust scale and old paint using both paper and steel wool....a lot of particulates in the air that I should probably be trying to keep out of my lungs Any recommendations?? I'm sure some of the professionals that frequent this site have done their research on this one and can offer up some sage advice. Thanks!!
scott_442 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links

Register your account for free today or log in if already registered to remove this ad!
Old November 30th, 2008, 07:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
csstrux
Super Moderator
 
csstrux's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Janesville wisconsin
Posts: 1,659
Just my personal opinion...The pipes in most of the victorian houses were made of lead when originally installed, they were painted using lead, car batteries still use lead. You have been surrounded by it for years and it really has not harmed you. Idiots posing as environmentalists are trying to grab more power to screw up your life. Use normal precautions, and let the commies worry about the rest of it.
__________________
Chad
Greed: in psychology is an excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth
csstrux is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 30th, 2008, 07:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
hsckris
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: NC
Posts: 20
Seems reasonable to me. I was wondering about this when I started body work on my old Chevelle many years ago.

Probably should at least wear a mask.

Scott 442: Triangle represent. If i ever get my cutlass down here (it is in richmond) we should get up or something man.
__________________
70 Cutlass (project)
06 Nissan Frontier KC SE 4x4
03 Ford Focus ZX3
hsckris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 30th, 2008, 08:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
Eric Anderson
Registered User
 
Eric Anderson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North East PA
Posts: 362
Quote:
Originally Posted by csstrux View Post
Just my personal opinion...The pipes in most of the victorian houses were made of lead when originally installed, they were painted using lead, car batteries still use lead. You have been surrounded by it for years and it really has not harmed you. Idiots posing as environmentalists are trying to grab more power to screw up your life. Use normal precautions, and let the commies worry about the rest of it.

x2
Eric Anderson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 1st, 2008, 07:25 AM   #5 (permalink)
Olds64
Landyacht Club President
 
Olds64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lawton, OK
Posts: 4,286
Quote:
let the commies worry about the rest of it
Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?
__________________
Ferris, my father loves this car more than life itself... Apparently, you don't understand! Ferris, he never drives it! He just rubs it with a diaper!

Cameron Frye Ferris Bueller's Day Off 1986
Olds64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 1st, 2008, 07:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
NAS Backyard
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Woodbridge CA
Posts: 127
I was thinking trhe same thing AFTER I did the floor boards in my 61. The primer is alot darker and kind of looks like the red lead they use on Navy ships. I did use a dust mask but I would recomend a respirator with dust filters if you have any facial hair. My friend who is has been a bodyman for 27 years had a strange throat clearing kind of cough going on from years of working around bodywork
.
NAS Backyard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 7th, 2008, 07:15 AM   #7 (permalink)
csstrux
Super Moderator
 
csstrux's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Janesville wisconsin
Posts: 1,659
You do want to use at least a mask to keep the dust out of your lungs. There are chemicals and particulates that will harm you. Sans the use normal precautions comment. My point was that the whole lead issue has been blown entirely out of proportion, along with global warming...no global cooling...no global climate change... Among other "causes" that usually end up impacting somebodies life inordinately, and negatively once big brother gets involved. Use common sense when dealing with any chemical or product that is potentially hazardous, keep it clean and dispose of the waste properly, Otherwise there is no reason to get excited Usually there will be handling instructions on the packages or an msds (material safety data) sheet will be given to you at point of purchase if you go to the professional shops. IE Body Shop Supply hope this clears things up a bit
__________________
Chad
Greed: in psychology is an excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth
csstrux is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 7th, 2008, 07:17 AM   #8 (permalink)
csstrux
Super Moderator
 
csstrux's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Janesville wisconsin
Posts: 1,659
Quote:
Originally Posted by Olds64 View Post
Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?
No... Usually some mocha something or another... wearing Birkenstocks and wool socks
__________________
Chad
Greed: in psychology is an excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth
csstrux is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 8th, 2008, 10:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
BILL DEMMER
Just the facts...
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: THE GREAT WIDE-OPEN
Posts: 208
wear a mask for any particulates and don't eat the paint. you'll be fine!


bill
__________________
'67 CUTLASS 4-DR. W/425 & S.P. THM400 (NAMED "ERNIE")
'83 H/O #1339(STILL IN PIECES)
'85 PONTIAC FIERO SE V-6 4-SPD. BOUGHT NEW
'92 CHEBBY DIS-ASTRO (GAS PIG)
'97 GYRO METRO $HYTBOX (41.42 MPG)
BILL DEMMER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2008, 10:11 AM   #10 (permalink)
Bluevista
Cruisin' the Vistas
 
Bluevista's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Northeast Ohio
Posts: 1,724
The body has lead all over it on the seams. That's where you can get some real lead dust flying if you aren't careful sanding the paint off.
I always wear a twin cartridge repirator doing any dusty work, I try not to eat too much but I get hungry.

The most hazardous thing around people should be careful with are 2 stage clearcoats IMO. It should be left to the pros or only used with all the proper equipment. It's like breathing super glue but worse, can be absorbed through the skin, and it can permanently damage much needed internal organs with one exposure.

But then again... what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

Allan
Bluevista is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 5th, 2009, 01:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
ijasond
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Atlanta (or close enough)
Posts: 288
I would never recommend a lung full of anything other than air. A dust mask is fine for sanding, definitely a respirator for painting anything that contains a catalyst. The isocyanates in paint hardeners do attack the nervous system which can lead to early alzheimer's. Not to mention they will make you sick as a dog, this one I learned the hard way.
No matter what you are working on, you are usually so focused on the work that safety is sometimes an afterthought. Just plan ahead for the appropriate safety precautions. Better safe than sorry probably applies here. In our body shop, there are still several materials that contain lead. Mostly the orange red toners, it's not as obsolete as you would think. The only way that lead would really hurt you is if you atomized it(sprayed a material that contains it) or vaporized it(melted it to remove it or do lead filler work) and then breathed it in. Other than that, wear a dust mask and you'll be ok.
ijasond is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 5th, 2009, 02:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
joe_padavano
Super Moderator
 
joe_padavano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 4,402
Quote:
Originally Posted by ijasond View Post
I would never recommend a lung full of anything other than air. A dust mask is fine for sanding, definitely a respirator for painting anything that contains a catalyst. The isocyanates in paint hardeners do attack the nervous system which can lead to early alzheimer's. Not to mention they will make you sick as a dog, this one I learned the hard way.
No matter what you are working on, you are usually so focused on the work that safety is sometimes an afterthought. Just plan ahead for the appropriate safety precautions. Better safe than sorry probably applies here. In our body shop, there are still several materials that contain lead. Mostly the orange red toners, it's not as obsolete as you would think. The only way that lead would really hurt you is if you atomized it(sprayed a material that contains it) or vaporized it(melted it to remove it or do lead filler work) and then breathed it in. Other than that, wear a dust mask and you'll be ok.
Excellent advice. GM factory paint contains lead well into the late 1960s. Of course, in my young and stupid days I sanded a lot of it with no respirator. Today I use the appropriate safety gear. I also bought a supplied-air respirator for painting.
__________________
Joe Padavano

64 Jetstar 88 Conv
66 442 L-69 Conv
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30
72 442
84 Custom Cruiser
86 Caprice wagon (w/307 Olds)
joe_padavano is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Any concerns going from 425 to 455 ? nonhog Big Blocks 9 October 7th, 2008 07:44 PM
LEAD - 65 Starfire in Toledo for $2000 DennisG. Cars For Sale 0 June 29th, 2008 06:17 PM
Octane use in lead gas motor Redog Small Blocks 3 April 9th, 2008 01:24 PM
lead alternitive American Lead Small Blocks 8 January 5th, 2008 09:39 AM
Lead in Gas oldssragtop Cutlass 2 January 11th, 2007 12:54 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:42 PM.


Advertising - Privacy Policy - Terms of Use - Jobs
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0
All content Copyright © 2008 by Internet Brands, Inc.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63