Demolition Derby!

dar83501 · 03-16-2008, 11:47 PM

I'm volunteering to be on a friend's pit crew for this season's demolition derby. It's a Buick, but I figure you guys may enjoy seeing the work in progress as we work on it. It's a 66 or 67 Buick Electra 225 4 door, with a transplanted Buick 425ci Wildcat 445 in it. It's a real monster, should take quite a beating to kill it! Worked on it the past couple weeks, just got the engine to run today and tested the transmission real quick. It's going to be a lot of fun, and I might learn a thing or two.

One thing I can say, is we'll pipe the exhaust straight up through the hood, giving it somewhat the look of a pipe organ. We might just name the car "Maestro", and paint a slogan on it that says "We're just here to play." Puns are fun, right?

I'll take pictures soon and update this thread till derby season starts, to keep everyone posted on the project.

jeffrey · 03-17-2008, 07:26 AM

Right on...........Maybe you could call it the "huge organ"

LMAO,

Jeff

joe_padavano · 03-17-2008, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dar83501

I'm volunteering to be on a friend's pit crew for this season's demolition derby. It's a Buick, but I figure you guys may enjoy seeing the work in progress as we work on it. It's a 66 or 67 Buick Electra 225 4 door, with a transplanted Buick 425ci Wildcat 445 in it.

Sorry, but it pains me to see any 60s car destroyed like that - even a four door.

daverbmxer · 03-17-2008, 09:27 AM

X2

However, I'm sure it's seen better days..

Pfiffle · 03-17-2008, 12:10 PM

I don't even like watching Mythbusters when they blow up those G bodys and old Cadillacs.

dar83501 · 03-17-2008, 12:29 PM

the interior was completely shot.

speedy_87ss · 03-18-2008, 12:03 AM

if it's a "445" Buick,, it's a nailhead 401. What year is the engine? That's not one to burn up,, for real...
PM me if it's a 401/445.
Jeff

dar83501 · 03-18-2008, 12:15 PM

I thought it was a 401 at first, but the driver told me whoever he got the car from said it was a 425. Either way, it says Wildcat 445 on the air cleaner.

speedy_87ss · 03-18-2008, 08:39 PM

I would be very curious to see the block and head numbers! The reson for my curiousity is I have a 66 Buick Skylark GS, it originally had a 401/445 4 speed in it, currently has a 430 Buick, with 4 speed. I have entertained returning it to the original engine/trans combo if I find one close to my build date.
Jeff

keith6989 · 03-19-2008, 03:25 AM

ouch.... What an AWFUL thing to do to such a NICE car.... It is highly frowned upon.... NOT A COOL THING TO DO AT ALL....

Robert

keith6989 · 03-19-2008, 03:04 PM

by the way... MYTH BBUSTERS CAN SUCK MY ASS! I HATE THEM... ASS HOLES EVERY ONE OF THEM!

keith6989 · 03-19-2008, 03:05 PM

I hate to cause a fight... But do you know how long people like me save for somthing like that?!?!?!

dar83501 · 03-20-2008, 01:34 PM

The value of a 4 door Buick Electra 225 with a completely thrashed interior and all kinds of broken crap under the hood is pretty nill. I wouldn't cry too hard over it.

dar83501 · 03-20-2008, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedy_87ss

if it's a "445" Buick,, it's a nailhead 401. What year is the engine? That's not one to burn up,, for real...
PM me if it's a 401/445.
Jeff

I'll find out the numbers on it when we clean it up. But she's still getting derbied.

keith6989 · 03-20-2008, 02:37 PM

The value of my bank account is even less.... alot less....

dar83501 · 03-20-2008, 02:42 PM

Point being?

keith6989 · 03-20-2008, 03:30 PM

good question... I have confused myself as well...

keith6989 · 03-20-2008, 03:37 PM

just a shame to see somthing come 41 years just for someone to F*** it over in a derby

Pfiffle · 03-20-2008, 03:41 PM

I'd rather see a bunch of Hondas and Nissans destroy each other. Now that I'd watch.

keith6989 · 03-20-2008, 03:52 PM

AMEN!!! DOWN WITH JAPANEESE CARS!!!

J-(Chicago) · 03-20-2008, 05:45 PM

Smash it, bro!!
Make it #225, and paint it cool, not all 1/4 assed with a runny rattle can number 5 minutes beforehand.
People in the stands like to root for the coolest car.
Do the rule books say you can make your own radiator? If you are allowed, definitely do it.
I'm on the local DDDA site sometimes. Go to Wecrash.com I can sit there for hours trading parts, and checking out everyone's rig ins.

shaks 442 clone · 03-21-2008, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keith6989

AMEN!!! DOWN WITH JAPANEESE CARS!!!

What is wrong with Japanese cars? I personally like most of them.

dar83501 · 03-21-2008, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-(Chicago)

Smash it, bro!!
Make it #225, and paint it cool, not all 1/4 assed with a runny rattle can number 5 minutes beforehand.
People in the stands like to root for the coolest car.
Do the rule books say you can make your own radiator? If you are allowed, definitely do it.
I'm on the local DDDA site sometimes. Go to Wecrash.com I can sit there for hours trading parts, and checking out everyone's rig ins.

the driver's dad is painting the car for us. $100 prize for best in show, and his dad's paint jobs have won before. Our driver is #150. the rules are very very specific and restrictive, but our driver has run many derbies before so he knows the right people to call to find out what we can and can't do.

keith6989 · 03-22-2008, 06:15 AM

I suppose you are right.... I just don't like it when rice burners talk down to north american cars...

Boy I talked myself into a corner here....

I hope I didn't offend no one

sorry...

I still don't like the idea of bustin up a 60's car in a demo D

J-(Chicago) · 03-22-2008, 06:57 AM

Keith, I understand your point about bustin' up old cars, but there's just too many to save, and not enough car guys to save them.

Just have a
look.

http://www.thelincolnforum.net/phpbb...st=0&sk=t&sd=a

No one will save these non-smashed ones, because it will cost $15 grand, but people are willing to pay off a $40,000 death trap so long as it drives while they pay.

As far as emissions go, I'd like to know how much pollution has been made by manufacturing giant ugly plastic bumpers, and POINTLESS rear spoilers, side, and hood scoops for the last 20 years. Not to mention the smell when they are all melted down for scrap over and over.

There are plenty of old cars still Keith, and we'll be lucky to see 10% of these ever restored.

Olds64 · 03-22-2008, 07:19 AM

That is cool! Definitely post pics of before and after the demolition derby season. It would be neat to do that. It is a bummer that a 60s car is getting thrashed but at least it is being used as opposed to sitting in a field.

J-(Chicago) · 03-22-2008, 02:20 PM

If you guys don't notch the frame and pack the rear panels, I'll give that thing 1 race before it's toast. Maybe even 1/2 a race.

Your car will turn into a plow in 1 hit if that frame bends the wrong way.
Jack the front end way up with some Ford truck springs, and pack the rear by smashing it into the olds 98 in that field a few times. See how your notches are turning out. Also, chain the rear frame arches together so they don't bow out and lock up your rear wheels.

Keep us posted on the rules out by you. I bet Idaho is pretty light on hitting you with the book. Sounds like a blast. I demo'd my 84 delta in 2001...threw a rod through the pan & snapped an axle. What a marshmallow

307&7.5'' rear is a garbage Heat setup.

dar83501 · 03-22-2008, 03:06 PM

we're going to notch the frame in the back to give it some leeway and so the rear quarters don't dig into the wheels, they'll bend the way we want them to. we're also putting a set of Super Swampers on it, in case things get muddy he'll have some extra traction.

Our driver has won a few derbies before, once with a Lincoln Mark VIII, haha. he's also a body man, so he knows what's up.

03-16-2008, 11:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
dar83501 Brewsmobile > Bluesmobile Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lewiston, Idaho Posts: 271	Demolition Derby! I'm volunteering to be on a friend's pit crew for this season's demolition derby. It's a Buick, but I figure you guys may enjoy seeing the work in progress as we work on it. It's a 66 or 67 Buick Electra 225 4 door, with a transplanted Buick 425ci Wildcat 445 in it. It's a real monster, should take quite a beating to kill it! Worked on it the past couple weeks, just got the engine to run today and tested the transmission real quick. It's going to be a lot of fun, and I might learn a thing or two. One thing I can say, is we'll pipe the exhaust straight up through the hood, giving it somewhat the look of a pipe organ. We might just name the car "Maestro", and paint a slogan on it that says "We're just here to play." Puns are fun, right? I'll take pictures soon and update this thread till derby season starts, to keep everyone posted on the project. __________________ 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme 455 Big Block Project - "The Brewsmobile"

03-17-2008, 07:26 AM	#2 (permalink)
jeffrey Rocketeer Jr. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 108	Right on...........Maybe you could call it the "huge organ" LMAO, Jeff __________________ '53 Olds 88 '55 98 '56 Holiday 88 '56 S-88 Conv '70 Cutlass SX

03-17-2008, 09:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
daverbmxer Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: North Dakota Posts: 47	X2 However, I'm sure it's seen better days.. __________________ 1977 Cutlass S 350/350. Runs & drives great but she ain't so pretty.

03-17-2008, 12:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
dar83501 Brewsmobile > Bluesmobile Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lewiston, Idaho Posts: 271	the interior was completely shot. __________________ 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme 455 Big Block Project - "The Brewsmobile"

03-18-2008, 12:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
dar83501 Brewsmobile > Bluesmobile Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lewiston, Idaho Posts: 271	I thought it was a 401 at first, but the driver told me whoever he got the car from said it was a 425. Either way, it says Wildcat 445 on the air cleaner. __________________ 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme 455 Big Block Project - "The Brewsmobile"

03-17-2008, 12:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Pfiffle Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 97	I don't even like watching Mythbusters when they blow up those G bodys and old Cadillacs.

03-18-2008, 12:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
speedy_87ss Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 23	if it's a "445" Buick,, it's a nailhead 401. What year is the engine? That's not one to burn up,, for real... PM me if it's a 401/445. Jeff

03-18-2008, 08:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
speedy_87ss Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 23	I would be very curious to see the block and head numbers! The reson for my curiousity is I have a 66 Buick Skylark GS, it originally had a 401/445 4 speed in it, currently has a 430 Buick, with 4 speed. I have entertained returning it to the original engine/trans combo if I find one close to my build date. Jeff

03-19-2008, 03:25 AM	#10 (permalink)
keith6989 2Blue 55" Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 377	ouch.... What an AWFUL thing to do to such a NICE car.... It is highly frowned upon.... NOT A COOL THING TO DO AT ALL.... Robert __________________ Robert 1955 Oldsmobile Super 88 Last edited by keith6989 : 03-19-2008 at 03:03 PM.

03-19-2008, 03:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
keith6989 2Blue 55" Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 377	by the way... MYTH BBUSTERS CAN SUCK MY ASS! I HATE THEM... ASS HOLES EVERY ONE OF THEM! __________________ Robert 1955 Oldsmobile Super 88

03-19-2008, 03:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
keith6989 2Blue 55" Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 377	I hate to cause a fight... But do you know how long people like me save for somthing like that?!?!?! __________________ Robert 1955 Oldsmobile Super 88

03-20-2008, 01:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
dar83501 Brewsmobile > Bluesmobile Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lewiston, Idaho Posts: 271	The value of a 4 door Buick Electra 225 with a completely thrashed interior and all kinds of broken crap under the hood is pretty nill. I wouldn't cry too hard over it. __________________ 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme 455 Big Block Project - "The Brewsmobile"

03-20-2008, 02:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
keith6989 2Blue 55" Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 377	The value of my bank account is even less.... alot less.... __________________ Robert 1955 Oldsmobile Super 88

03-20-2008, 02:42 PM	#16 (permalink)
dar83501 Brewsmobile > Bluesmobile Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lewiston, Idaho Posts: 271	Point being? __________________ 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme 455 Big Block Project - "The Brewsmobile"

03-20-2008, 03:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
keith6989 2Blue 55" Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 377	good question... I have confused myself as well... __________________ Robert 1955 Oldsmobile Super 88

03-20-2008, 03:37 PM	#18 (permalink)
keith6989 2Blue 55" Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 377	just a shame to see somthing come 41 years just for someone to F*** it over in a derby __________________ Robert 1955 Oldsmobile Super 88

03-20-2008, 03:41 PM	#19 (permalink)
Pfiffle Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 97	I'd rather see a bunch of Hondas and Nissans destroy each other. Now that I'd watch.

03-20-2008, 03:52 PM	#20 (permalink)
keith6989 2Blue 55" Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 377	AMEN!!! DOWN WITH JAPANEESE CARS!!! __________________ Robert 1955 Oldsmobile Super 88

03-20-2008, 05:45 PM	#21 (permalink)
J-(Chicago) Seasoned beater pilot. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,380	Smash it, bro!! Make it #225, and paint it cool, not all 1/4 assed with a runny rattle can number 5 minutes beforehand. People in the stands like to root for the coolest car. Do the rule books say you can make your own radiator? If you are allowed, definitely do it. I'm on the local DDDA site sometimes. Go to Wecrash.com I can sit there for hours trading parts, and checking out everyone's rig ins. __________________ I'd rather have a numbers matching poker hand.

03-22-2008, 06:15 AM	#24 (permalink)
keith6989 2Blue 55" Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 377	I suppose you are right.... I just don't like it when rice burners talk down to north american cars... Boy I talked myself into a corner here.... I hope I didn't offend no one sorry... I still don't like the idea of bustin up a 60's car in a demo D __________________ Robert 1955 Oldsmobile Super 88

03-22-2008, 06:57 AM	#25 (permalink)
J-(Chicago) Seasoned beater pilot. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,380	Keith, I understand your point about bustin' up old cars, but there's just too many to save, and not enough car guys to save them. Just have a look. http://www.thelincolnforum.net/phpbb...st=0&sk=t&sd=a No one will save these non-smashed ones, because it will cost $15 grand, but people are willing to pay off a $40,000 death trap so long as it drives while they pay. As far as emissions go, I'd like to know how much pollution has been made by manufacturing giant ugly plastic bumpers, and POINTLESS rear spoilers, side, and hood scoops for the last 20 years. Not to mention the smell when they are all melted down for scrap over and over. There are plenty of old cars still Keith, and we'll be lucky to see 10% of these ever restored. __________________ I'd rather have a numbers matching poker hand.

03-22-2008, 07:19 AM	#26 (permalink)
Olds64 Landyacht Club President Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lawton, OK Posts: 1,070	That is cool! Definitely post pics of before and after the demolition derby season. It would be neat to do that. It is a bummer that a 60s car is getting thrashed but at least it is being used as opposed to sitting in a field. __________________ "Some men are Baptists, others Catholics. My father was an OLDSMOBILE man." Ralphie Billingsley A Christmas Story 1983 "We rei-eign, supreme, ooooh god! Burrito supreme, and a chicken supreme, and a CUTLASS SUPREME!" Tenacious D 2007

03-22-2008, 02:20 PM	#27 (permalink)
J-(Chicago) Seasoned beater pilot. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,380	If you guys don't notch the frame and pack the rear panels, I'll give that thing 1 race before it's toast. Maybe even 1/2 a race. Your car will turn into a plow in 1 hit if that frame bends the wrong way. Jack the front end way up with some Ford truck springs, and pack the rear by smashing it into the olds 98 in that field a few times. See how your notches are turning out. Also, chain the rear frame arches together so they don't bow out and lock up your rear wheels. Keep us posted on the rules out by you. I bet Idaho is pretty light on hitting you with the book. Sounds like a blast. I demo'd my 84 delta in 2001...threw a rod through the pan & snapped an axle. What a marshmallow 307&7.5'' rear is a garbage Heat setup. __________________ I'd rather have a numbers matching poker hand.

03-22-2008, 03:06 PM	#28 (permalink)
dar83501 Brewsmobile > Bluesmobile Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lewiston, Idaho Posts: 271	we're going to notch the frame in the back to give it some leeway and so the rear quarters don't dig into the wheels, they'll bend the way we want them to. we're also putting a set of Super Swampers on it, in case things get muddy he'll have some extra traction. Our driver has won a few derbies before, once with a Lincoln Mark VIII, haha. he's also a body man, so he knows what's up. __________________ 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme 455 Big Block Project - "The Brewsmobile"