1976 Hurst Olds
September 25th, 2013, 01:21 PM
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I refrained from comment for most of this thread and although my car appreciation stopped in 1972, I agree its a very nice car. I noted above on the Hurst Equipped emblem and Phoenix Graphics makes the rear fender decal for the 72-74's.
http://www.phoenixgraphix.com/gm/1973ho.php
http://www.phoenixgraphix.com/gm/1973ho.php
September 25th, 2013, 01:38 PM
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I refrained from comment for most of this thread and although my car appreciation stopped in 1972, I agree its a very nice car. I noted above on the Hurst Equipped emblem and Phoenix Graphics makes the rear fender decal for the 72-74's.
http://www.phoenixgraphix.com/gm/1973ho.php
http://www.phoenixgraphix.com/gm/1973ho.php
September 25th, 2013, 01:45 PM
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It was hard to get a clear pic plus yours is a black car, but it's a graphics company and they note custom graphic's available. I'm not by any means knocking you or your car, just pointing this out as anything is possible. There are 2 colors available Black and Gold on the complete kit.
September 25th, 2013, 02:05 PM
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It was hard to get a clear pic plus yours is a black car, but it's a graphics company and they note custom graphic's available. I'm not by any means knocking you or your car, just pointing this out as anything is possible. There are 2 colors available Black and Gold on the complete kit.
September 25th, 2013, 10:49 PM
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Thank you. The one thing I notice different on the reproduction quarter decals vs the one on the car is the reproduction ones the black in the O and in in half the H is a decal. Where the ones on the car it's not a decal. It's the black from the paint of the car and the Olds in top of that. Not a decal.
September 25th, 2013, 11:17 PM
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Seeing how you guys lack knowledge and can't handle the facts there is no point
September 26th, 2013, 12:35 AM
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'76 Olds Hurst Options
Still looking for facts, technically the truth is there was a Cutlass Hurst option in '76. But it's only the Hatch Roof opt code AE1. But they also had a Hurst Delta Royale opt Y61.
Factory literature I have lists all items and part numbers included. (Note that Olds had handling & warranty procedures for any Hurst products). The Y61 option even included an emblem that Hurst installed. AE1 T-tops include a carrying case but nothing said about any emblems or decals. So that leads me to believe an "H/O" or "Hurst Equipped" emblem was not installed by Hurst or dealer. If so there would most likely be part numbers & warranty procedures if put on a new car.
Been awhile since looked at 442.com so I looked only to find same old incorrect faqs! And yes, most every site you refered to has incorrect statements too. I tried correcting 442 dot com many years ago without success. Same wrong stuff on the '73 & '74s. Probably the most accurate Hurst/Olds info can be found on wikipedia. Go ahead and contact club advisors or whoever but you should get the same answer from a knowledgeable person that the car is a Cutlass Salon with Hurst/Hatches.
I myself use to have a '76 Salon & a '77 Cutlass which is my favorite year. Like the Salon seats in '77 better because they are not so big. Personally I would remove the qtr panel logos and put the Hurst Equipped badge on the trunk if it were my car.
Olds literature says that the space saver spare tire opt N65 is required with opt AE1 Hatch Roof in '77. In '76 both options were available but haven't found anything yet saying manditory but it was a new factory ordered option that year. So just note that '77 cars with T-tops and regular spare positively means they were added later by an authorized installer.
Don't know why I even reply again because you have laughed & dissed every comment I made! I figured you had a reason for negative comments because it's your car. You are not going to find the answers to really want to hear from any credible source. Those have tried to tell you what it is and what it is not, A Cutlass Salon with Hurst/Hatches. Good luck on finding original owner which is the only way to find out who, when, or why the decals and badges were installed. Maybe a second or third owner could shed light but again they may have bought it thinking it's an H/O because of a bs story told by prior owner, who knows.
Factory literature I have lists all items and part numbers included. (Note that Olds had handling & warranty procedures for any Hurst products). The Y61 option even included an emblem that Hurst installed. AE1 T-tops include a carrying case but nothing said about any emblems or decals. So that leads me to believe an "H/O" or "Hurst Equipped" emblem was not installed by Hurst or dealer. If so there would most likely be part numbers & warranty procedures if put on a new car.
Been awhile since looked at 442.com so I looked only to find same old incorrect faqs! And yes, most every site you refered to has incorrect statements too. I tried correcting 442 dot com many years ago without success. Same wrong stuff on the '73 & '74s. Probably the most accurate Hurst/Olds info can be found on wikipedia. Go ahead and contact club advisors or whoever but you should get the same answer from a knowledgeable person that the car is a Cutlass Salon with Hurst/Hatches.
I myself use to have a '76 Salon & a '77 Cutlass which is my favorite year. Like the Salon seats in '77 better because they are not so big. Personally I would remove the qtr panel logos and put the Hurst Equipped badge on the trunk if it were my car.
Olds literature says that the space saver spare tire opt N65 is required with opt AE1 Hatch Roof in '77. In '76 both options were available but haven't found anything yet saying manditory but it was a new factory ordered option that year. So just note that '77 cars with T-tops and regular spare positively means they were added later by an authorized installer.
Don't know why I even reply again because you have laughed & dissed every comment I made! I figured you had a reason for negative comments because it's your car. You are not going to find the answers to really want to hear from any credible source. Those have tried to tell you what it is and what it is not, A Cutlass Salon with Hurst/Hatches. Good luck on finding original owner which is the only way to find out who, when, or why the decals and badges were installed. Maybe a second or third owner could shed light but again they may have bought it thinking it's an H/O because of a bs story told by prior owner, who knows.
September 26th, 2013, 02:43 AM
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A few more items on rear quarter decals I think I can show you. There are 4 pictures below, a 72 H/O, 74 H/O, the 76 H/O proposal car and your car. Note what I guess we can call the 'font', in the first 3 decals, the 'O' in 'OLDS' is an oval, where yours is a round 'O', the letter 'D' is similar in nature. Another item to check out, look at the H and the O and their distance from the / in H/O. The first 3 there is a 1/2 inch to maybe an inch? separation, on your car it seems that they are very close to almost touching. It also seems your entire decal is a bit larger than what you would expect a qtr decal to be, looks larger in relation on your quarter compared to the others. I can measure the dimensions on my 74 if you want to compare.
September 26th, 2013, 02:59 AM
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Still looking for facts, technically the truth is there was a Cutlass Hurst option in '76. But it's only the Hatch Roof opt code AE1. But they also had a Hurst Delta Royale opt Y61.
Factory literature I have lists all items and part numbers included. (Note that Olds had handling & warranty procedures for any Hurst products). The Y61 option even included an emblem that Hurst installed. AE1 T-tops include a carrying case but nothing said about any emblems or decals. So that leads me to believe an "H/O" or "Hurst Equipped" emblem was not installed by Hurst or dealer. If so there would most likely be part numbers & warranty procedures if put on a new car.
Been awhile since looked at 442.com so I looked only to find same old incorrect faqs! And yes, most every site you refered to has incorrect statements too. I tried correcting 442 dot com many years ago without success. Same wrong stuff on the '73 & '74s. Probably the most accurate Hurst/Olds info can be found on wikipedia. Go ahead and contact club advisors or whoever but you should get the same answer from a knowledgeable person that the car is a Cutlass Salon with Hurst/Hatches.
I myself use to have a '76 Salon & a '77 Cutlass which is my favorite year. Like the Salon seats in '77 better because they are not so big. Personally I would remove the qtr panel logos and put the Hurst Equipped badge on the trunk if it were my car.
Olds literature says that the space saver spare tire opt N65 is required with opt AE1 Hatch Roof in '77. In '76 both options were available but haven't found anything yet saying manditory but it was a new factory ordered option that year. So just note that '77 cars with T-tops and regular spare positively means they were added later by an authorized installer.
Don't know why I even reply again because you have laughed & dissed every comment I made! I figured you had a reason for negative comments because it's your car. You are not going to find the answers to really want to hear from any credible source. Those have tried to tell you what it is and what it is not, A Cutlass Salon with Hurst/Hatches. Good luck on finding original owner which is the only way to find out who, when, or why the decals and badges were installed. Maybe a second or third owner could shed light but again they may have bought it thinking it's an H/O because of a bs story told by prior owner, who knows.
Factory literature I have lists all items and part numbers included. (Note that Olds had handling & warranty procedures for any Hurst products). The Y61 option even included an emblem that Hurst installed. AE1 T-tops include a carrying case but nothing said about any emblems or decals. So that leads me to believe an "H/O" or "Hurst Equipped" emblem was not installed by Hurst or dealer. If so there would most likely be part numbers & warranty procedures if put on a new car.
Been awhile since looked at 442.com so I looked only to find same old incorrect faqs! And yes, most every site you refered to has incorrect statements too. I tried correcting 442 dot com many years ago without success. Same wrong stuff on the '73 & '74s. Probably the most accurate Hurst/Olds info can be found on wikipedia. Go ahead and contact club advisors or whoever but you should get the same answer from a knowledgeable person that the car is a Cutlass Salon with Hurst/Hatches.
I myself use to have a '76 Salon & a '77 Cutlass which is my favorite year. Like the Salon seats in '77 better because they are not so big. Personally I would remove the qtr panel logos and put the Hurst Equipped badge on the trunk if it were my car.
Olds literature says that the space saver spare tire opt N65 is required with opt AE1 Hatch Roof in '77. In '76 both options were available but haven't found anything yet saying manditory but it was a new factory ordered option that year. So just note that '77 cars with T-tops and regular spare positively means they were added later by an authorized installer.
Don't know why I even reply again because you have laughed & dissed every comment I made! I figured you had a reason for negative comments because it's your car. You are not going to find the answers to really want to hear from any credible source. Those have tried to tell you what it is and what it is not, A Cutlass Salon with Hurst/Hatches. Good luck on finding original owner which is the only way to find out who, when, or why the decals and badges were installed. Maybe a second or third owner could shed light but again they may have bought it thinking it's an H/O because of a bs story told by prior owner, who knows.
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September 26th, 2013, 05:24 AM
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September 26th, 2013, 10:59 AM
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I am glad you like the car and it sounds like a bad *** setup on her. I think you should let everyone know what your plans are for it and show us more pictures. And I have forgot to say, as i went straight to poo throwing, Welcome aboard and these can be some of the nicest and most informed people in the Olds community 
September 26th, 2013, 04:29 PM
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I am glad you like the car and it sounds like a bad *** setup on her. I think you should let everyone know what your plans are for it and show us more pictures. And I have forgot to say, as i went straight to poo throwing, Welcome aboard and these can be some of the nicest and most informed people in the Olds community
September 26th, 2013, 09:35 PM
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That's a nice car. A 76 Salon equipped with Hurst Hatches that has had the emblems added, as others have mentioned. They are newer reproductions. I have a couple of those repros myself but never stuck them on the car. My car is a 76 442 with Hurst hatches. My car has the Hurst sticker in the door jamb and didn't come with any Hurst badging but it wouldn't have, it is not a Supreme, just as your car is not a Supreme. Your car is a Salon and all your posted pieces of "proof" mention Hurst converted Supremes. I don't see the Salon mentioned for the 1976 model year anywhere you posted this "evidence". You may need to read it a little closer. A Salon is not a Supreme. Also 442.com is well known for having incorrect information. That's a great car but you can rest assured Hurst didn't put those emblems on your car. Not trying to beat a dead horse by throwing poo at it, just pointing out that the references YOU posted say, "Supreme".
We can let him choose. 
October 2nd, 2013, 12:20 PM
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Not sure where you found this but it is full of diddly doo. It is a cool looking Salon and a factory 455 car to boot. A real H/O (which it's not) would have a Hurst shifter and H/O emblems. Not a Hurst t handle on a stock shifter or Hurst equiped emblems.
You should check out the 73-77 olds board.
http://www.73-77olds.com/forums/index.php
You should check out the 73-77 olds board.
http://www.73-77olds.com/forums/index.php
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October 2nd, 2013, 12:38 PM
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Dont some of the 74 or 75 that came with a standard shifter no dual gate. in the H/O ? wasnt it the w-3o H/o's that got the dual gate or was it just the 455 for them 
I will have to see if I find more on this.
I will have to see if I find more on this.
October 2nd, 2013, 02:53 PM
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In 1974 the W-30 455 equipped H/Os got the dual gate. The 350 equipped H/Os got the stock console shifter with a small Hurst Olds emblem mounted towards the rear of the shifter bezel.
October 2nd, 2013, 03:17 PM
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thats what i was thinking sort of I was looking at the one one here for sale back a few months ago talked with some more well versed in them and found out i didn't think i wanted it so didnt go any further . I like the cars that one just wasnt the one.
October 6th, 2013, 03:54 PM
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November 20th, 2014, 06:20 AM
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Boy, talk bout diggin' up bones...
Jon (jwsolds) knows more about the 73-77 Hurst/Olds production and prototype cars than anyone I know. You can bank on what he tells you.
The 1976 and 1977 H/O prototypes were based on the 37 fastback coupe bodystyle as shown in the pics in front of the AACA Museum, not the 57 notchback Supreme/Salon. Hurst/Hatch option AE1 was available for the 57 cars as a factory authorized option with conversion done by Hurst, but not available on the 37 body. The door jamb decal Hurst installed on these conversion cars was required by federal law for warranty and liability purposes. It does not make a hatch roof equipped car a Hurst/Olds. Besides, those same years Hurst was also putting them in Monte Carlos, Grand Prixs and Buick Regal S/R's and installing the same federally required decal. Those are certainly not Hurst/Oldsmobiles.
Bottom line is: a 1976-77 GM 57 bodystyle MAY have a Hurst Hatch roof installed, but its presence does not confirm a Hurst/Olds, no matter what additional decals or badging have been added over the years. LIkewise, if you want to get technical, the Y61 Royale Crown Landau conversion was the only production Hurst/Olds for 1976- and those carry no H/O badging whatsoever, only the fed door jamb decal.
Jon (jwsolds) knows more about the 73-77 Hurst/Olds production and prototype cars than anyone I know. You can bank on what he tells you.
The 1976 and 1977 H/O prototypes were based on the 37 fastback coupe bodystyle as shown in the pics in front of the AACA Museum, not the 57 notchback Supreme/Salon. Hurst/Hatch option AE1 was available for the 57 cars as a factory authorized option with conversion done by Hurst, but not available on the 37 body. The door jamb decal Hurst installed on these conversion cars was required by federal law for warranty and liability purposes. It does not make a hatch roof equipped car a Hurst/Olds. Besides, those same years Hurst was also putting them in Monte Carlos, Grand Prixs and Buick Regal S/R's and installing the same federally required decal. Those are certainly not Hurst/Oldsmobiles.
Bottom line is: a 1976-77 GM 57 bodystyle MAY have a Hurst Hatch roof installed, but its presence does not confirm a Hurst/Olds, no matter what additional decals or badging have been added over the years. LIkewise, if you want to get technical, the Y61 Royale Crown Landau conversion was the only production Hurst/Olds for 1976- and those carry no H/O badging whatsoever, only the fed door jamb decal.
April 9th, 2022, 07:45 AM
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hi gents,
was looking for part for a friend with 87 cutlas and came across your forum,
i couldn't help myself to register so i can reply,,
so my whole Brooklyn child hood life growing up my Dad was an Olds Man..3 of them.
in the 80's looking for a second car to drive around, I had a Z8 Camaro always in the garage,
i actually found and bought cross my heart 1976 Cutlas Supreme Salon Hurst Edition,
Forest Green, Saddle interior.
i hope this helps in your conversation,,
perhaps and maybe somewhere buried I may have a picture
stay well my Olds Friends
was looking for part for a friend with 87 cutlas and came across your forum,
i couldn't help myself to register so i can reply,,
so my whole Brooklyn child hood life growing up my Dad was an Olds Man..3 of them.
in the 80's looking for a second car to drive around, I had a Z8 Camaro always in the garage,
i actually found and bought cross my heart 1976 Cutlas Supreme Salon Hurst Edition,
Forest Green, Saddle interior.
i hope this helps in your conversation,,
perhaps and maybe somewhere buried I may have a picture
stay well my Olds Friends
