66-3X2 442

Here's a link to the new Olds book by Mike Siedlik. He was selling them @ the Nats and got some good feedback on it. Mike is a long time Olds guy who put a lot of time and effort into the book.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-The-Good-Ol ... 3aad504700

TenMidgets

Looks cool, I plan to get a copy. Thanks!

Trophyblue442

Just bought it. Looks good can't wait to get it

66-3X2 442

Is your cheap @$$ brother buying one or is he going to copy yours?

Trophyblue442

Make a copy? That may cost him money. He will take a picture of each page with his cell phone camera. That is more cost effective!

66-3X2 442

Figures,does he still get your old JWO's?

66trakpak

Hell, I'm going to take that book for whooping that covette's *** today on route 83

Trophyblue442

He prefers that I mail them to him so he feels like he paid not only do I have to give them to him I have to stamp them as well...

As far as the so called race for 60 feet in first gear if you can't win that with those wide *** radial tires and 4:88 gears you have a huge problem!

66-3X2 442

Wait till he puts the 3.23 rear in,he'll have to get out and push it away from a traffic light.

Trophyblue442

Better yet he can use that open rear you got for me. It would be more cost effective and he will get better gas mileage!

66trakpak

I think your confused 60 feet was how far behind that Fiberglass thing was from my rear bumper lol!! BTW I did buy a book also... You characters !!!

GAOldsman

How big are they? As in pages.

Octania

I have one that I have not had time to go thru yet. Maybe 1/2" thick. LOTS of info on details I never knew- wheels, etc.

Like all such books I believe I spotted numerical/ factual errata in a quick perusal, but THANKS to Mike for assembling this book. We can compose an errata sheet and correct future printings maybe.

66-3X2 442

Yes,Mike admits to some errors and is working to correct them. As with any fact book,they are prone to errors especially where part #'s change like the wind.

83hurstguy

Mine showed up today... kudos to Mike for putting it together. There's a lot of good and neat information in there. The somewhat disappointing part is I noticed a handful of errors in a 5 minute skim... '68 alternator numbers don't match the PIM (or other references I've seen), it's missing the '68 '8255 carb, possible water pump discrepancies (wrong length with the 400269 and "O" description)...

I hate to say it, but a lot of the editing and typographical/spelling errors make it look like it got rushed to print without appropriate proofreading. Getting a $35 book with 13 errata in the first month with a commitment of "more to come" means that this book will probably be at its best with a second edition. At least he's nice enough to publish them on his website so people can see an updated list of changes (as long as it gets maintained, which nothing will be forever).

There's my 0.02... having a solid Oldsmobile reference is nice, but with publishing something comes the burden of accuracy. We'll see how well it gets vetted with time.

66-3X2 442

He's already making corrections to the book. Here's an email I got from him.


Hello
As you all know nothing is in concrete. Since I came out with this book I have found and other Oldsmobile enthusiasts have come forward with additions and a few corrections. About the first of the months I will put up on our website www.thegoodoldsdays.com an addition/correction list.
In this book I looked at Oldsmobile books/literature/ real parts, something that I could go back to if questioned. There are so many publications out there that go by what the internet says(YA Right!) I want everyone to know that WE Oldsmobile people know what we are talking about. If you see anything and can prove it by facts please email me. There is so much information out there that I learn from about everyone I talk with.
Aug. 1 2015 Here are some of the things I have found. P6 Extra 0 in VIN. P12 Column2 H Delete Heater & Defrost, Column4 V needs to be in 5, P36 1966 400 Tri-Carbs need MT behind them, 1966 7036250 needs K19 behind AT, P40 Seen a 5A head, P46 1971 1112034 should have OAI behind A.T., P47 1965 1966 DE “?” should be a R 384784, P51 1966 330 5 casting # 391135 P52 1970 No 2 bl 455 intake H 398625, 1970 “OLDS W-455” ad dates 1/19/70 and 1/29/70, 1971 2bl 455 P 407568, P55 1967 first 4.11 O should be P, P62 Service Replacement Starter should be 1964 (1965-1967) Need more data on starters, P63 Ad bypass hole #1 .560 - .542, #2 .560 - .410, #3 .560 - .542, #4 .560 - .410, P71 Looking into 1971–72 water pumps, P75 SSII wheels all say 15x7, L to R 15x7, 14x7, 14x6.
Thank You Again, Mike

Olds442redberet

I just bought one.

Thanks

hurst68olds

Got mine yesterday & same as the above posts "lots of typos or errors" in the '67 tag decoding (442 being "4V"??) & noticed the H/O #s stuff seems to be not included?
Is Mike a member here?

available '67 vinyl tops are listed as: 2-black & 6-champagne ONLY
if that's accurate, what's this?

Hairy Olds

Mike is a member here. Take it easy or he might not be inclined on a second edition. Not many clammering for this kind of research work.

2blu442

I've ordered one and am waiting for it to arrive. I agree with Hairy, if the author spent a lot of time on it lets not spend our energy bashing him, but help. Maybe create a thread with suggested corrections? Only corrections accepted are ones documented from factory literature? What do you guys think?

John

Trophyblue442

I received my book and think it's great. Even if there are some mistakes it is still an excellent guide to compair with other documentation. I am VERY satisfied. Thanks mike and mike...

2blu442

OK, here's info to fill in a blank on page 51. 1966 330 intake #5 for the cali emissions 2bbl is casting number 391135. I've got the engine I pulled from a parts car several years ago. Here's a few pictures. John

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Diego

Beg pardon?

If he or his friends can't tolerate constructive criticism, what's the use of the book? I certainly don't want to rely on 442.com.

The author should step up to the place and embrace the constructive criticism without some of you threatening us, the consumer hungry for a good Olds book. I am sorry to hear that there are issues that will prevent me from buying edition 1, but I'll be poised to buy edition 2.

11971four4two

Thanks Mike
for taking the time to get the first edition
into print

Good olds info guide book
Keep up the good work
i am sure the next edition will be even more detailed / accurate

hurst68olds

Yes, the book has more information specifically about '64-'72 Olds a-bodies than any other currently available publication & it took time, money, and effort to bring this to MARKET. Mike didn't do it for the "love" of the hobby, or he would've put the pages on his current web site "FREE" for all to see.

Attached is a redlined pic of the '67 "decode" page, this is the info I know to be wrong. A little too much red ink for my liking.

Can I trust the info on a '65-'66 car that I know little about?

Am I waiting for the opportunity to purchase Vol. 2? NO! I'm not particularly happy with my purchase of Vol. 1 (First Printing).

Diego

So if he has a website, then why not start a page of corrections that can grow over time so owners of the book can hand-correct respective items?

Sounds like a win all around, no?

70-442-W30

It has to be difficult to keep everything 100% straight and accurate for a book like this. To trace and verify every part # with a zero tolerance for errors seems a bit dreamland to me.

However, if I was told that I needed a certain part number for a restoration project and it turned out to be something else that was needed to make the car authentic, that would disappoint me.

I'm buying the book just for the pics. And I'll verify with additional research as needed for the items that matter the most to me. Would be easier if on Amazon. Didn't see it there.

66-3X2 442

Mikes442

First off I would like to thank everyone for buying my book!


As Mike said I did come out with some corrections on Aug. 1.


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Hello
As you all know nothing is in concrete. Since I came out with this book I have found and other Oldsmobile enthusiasts have come forward with additions and a few corrections. About the first of the months I will put up on our website www.thegoodoldsdays.com an addition/correction list.
In this book I looked at Oldsmobile books/literature/ real parts, something that I could go back to if questioned. There are so many publications out there that go by what the internet says(YA Right!) I want everyone to know that WE Oldsmobile people know what we are talking about. If you see anything and can prove it by facts please email me.


olds@megavision.com


There is so much information out there that I learn from about everyone I talk with.



Aug. 1 2015 Here are some of the things I have found. P6 Extra 0 in VIN. P12 Column2 H Delete Heater & Defrost, Column4 V needs to be in 5, P36 1966 400 Tri-Carbs need MT behind them, 1966 7036250 needs K19 behind AT, P40 Seen a 5A head, P46 1971 1112034 should have OAI behind A.T., P47 1965 1966 DE “?” should be a R 384784, P51 1966 330 5 casting # 391135 P52 1970 No 2 bl 455 intake H 398625, 1970 “OLDS W-455” ad dates 1/19/70 and 1/29/70, 1971 2bl 455 P 407568, P55 1967 first 4.11 O should be P, P62 Service Replacement Starter should be 1964 (1965-1967) Need more data on starters, P63 Ad bypass hole #1 .560 - .542, #2 .560 - .410, #3 .560 - .542, #4 .560 - .410, P71 Looking into 1971–72 water pumps, P75 SSII wheels all say 15x7, L to R 15x7, 14x7, 14x6.
Thank You Again, Mike


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Thanks John for the picture of the 5 manifold.


1967 Vinyl top colors are correct, the 3 colors are for Convt. Tops only.





I am a car guy and not a writer, I spent a lot of MY time looking this stuff up and making sure I got it right but I was the one that was proof reading and rereading and rereading. I sent some stuff out to be proof read but how long do you wait for a reply?


I did this book because of how much those other books by writers getting their information from GMs data base and hearsay and got a lot wrong and only looking at the 442 - W30 & Hurst/Olds. I wanted to include the Cutlass' & F85's.


I am going by older literature from Oldsmobile of the day, NOT today.


I don't mind criticism BUT please tell me where you got it from. I am not from Missouri, BUT SHOW ME!


Oh, by the way, just because your car has it on, doesn't mean that it is correct.


Cars were being made to get out the door.


I may sound MEAN, all I want is to make it correct.


I need to find time to make a pdf of the above info and put it on my site. I own my own business and need to keep my own doors open.


Thank You, Mike Siedlik



OK. Let the Flogging Begin!!!

11971four4two

Hey mister

would you like to sell me your used copy???

hurst68olds

1967 vinyl/convertible tops

Olds442redberet

Mine arrived today.

Looks great!
Thanks

Mikes442

1967 vinyl/convertible tops


You are correct. They added the White Vinyl top 3/4 of the way through the model year of 1967. March/April.


Thanks!

hurst68olds

the '67 SPECS booklet I posted pics of above is marked "REVISED 3/67", but no indication on what was changed
the body tag above is from 7M270101, body assembled first week of March - it is the earliest tag pic I have with a "white" vinyl top

mystery solved, THANKS!

What is your source for the 1-5 GROUP decodings?

GoodOldsGuyDougie

He needs to change the words in description he left out a word that makes it look like it doesn't have any info on 442's or W-30's.

This one-This book doesn’t look at the 442’s and W-30’s but all “A” bodies(F-85 – Cutlass – Cutlass Supremes).

83hurstguy

Attached is the '68 PIM information for alternator codes and their use based on accessory drive configuration. If you open the pics in a new browser window they should be readable once zoomed in.

Mikes442

hurst68olds, I have the 1967 Advanced Copy, Oct. 1966 and the March 1967 SPECS books. Hard to catch all the changes they added or took away. Oct. 1966 just had the Black and Champagne as the colors only.
The group decodings have been added to throughout the years and is always changing. I think I copied and pasted from the '65,s and got interupted at some point. And to think I own a 1966 and a 1967! Mike Richards, Curtis Anderson and Joe Donnelly after they seen it asked "What was I Smokin'" Curt is sending me his revised list for the 1966's. Could I get a list from you for the 1967's? And can I use your name?


WOW, I can not believe I spelled the word Fourth as "Forth" and spell check just let it go through. LOL


Doug, OK I can see that I could have added the word "just" in there for more clarification. I remember writing it but what page is it on?


83hurst guy, I was going to use those numbers but was hesitant because it was a "part number" more than a "stamped number". I remember looking at some of them '64-'72 and not finding a stamped number just a part number. It's very confusing because they used the numbers for both sometimes.


Guy's, I have no problem with you pointing something out to me.
Most all of you are focused on one make where as I am trying to get everyone happy.


I am working on pullyes right now and have almost all pullyes identified but I would like to put the water pump length with the set they go with. Can't find anything with pullyes and water pumps together. Might just start going through my Olds parts books and matching them. Anyone have any suggestions?


Thank You to you all, Mike

GoodOldsGuyDougie

Mike, What I'm Talking about is on the add/link in the ebay description that is selling the Book. I have ordered the book just waiting for it, Good Luck and thanks for keeping the Good Olds guys alive.

Mikes442

Thanks GoodOldsGuyDougie


Got that fixed.


Thanks Again, Mike

hurst68olds

here's what I have, if you wish to continue this via email: dhead68AThotmail.com later, Dan

1967 Oldsmobile A-body - Body by Fisher prep to accommodate/install:

(1)
E - tinted glass (A01)
F - ?? power seat
O - two-tone paint mouldings (with D99 "finish")
S - power trunk-lid latch (A91)
T - LH power bucket (A46)
W - tinted windshield (A02)
X - power windows (A31)
Y - ?? power bench seat (A41/A42)

-2-
B - 3-spd manual trans. - floor shift (M14)
E - air/conditioning (C60) includes Y76
G - sports console (D55)
H - heater delete
L - 4-spd manual transmission (M20/M21)
R - rear speaker (U80)
T - rear power antenna (U75)
X - ?? floor shift automatic 2-spd
Z - ?? column shift Turbo 400

-3-
B - rear defog (C50)
U - ??

-4-
C - chrome side window sill moldings (B85)
F - LH remote mirror (D33)

-5-
H - ??
J - deluxe seat belts including center rear (AL5) does not code "Y" also
M - center rear seat belt
O - seat belt delete (A62)
V - 442 performance pkg. (L78)
Y - deluxe seat belts (A39)

a couple question marks that would need to be resolved
and listing alphabetically/numerically helps with the clarity of information