442craig

I found this lurking behind the rear seat of my '68 442 convertible. Is this a piece of the build sheet? Do these numbers mean anything?

Thnaks,

Craig

davebw31

I think that tag was installed with a "hog ring" and attached to the wire spring body of the seat.


Your car must have black interior and a convert. Tag says model 3667 (cutlass convert.). Also part number 249330 color /type seat. I think top numbers are possibly built date and the manufacturers internal coding.

1969w3155

Build sheet and broadcast card for future reference.

davebw31

Yep, got one of the "Build Sheet" from Linden Assembly plant for my 70' 3677 (post coupe) 0Exxxxxx race car!

442craig

Thanks Guys,

I don't have any documentation on the car and was hoping it would reveal a clue. It is a 442 vert with pearl interior. Car was originally Jade Gold. The seat might have been out of something else. Or maybe there wasn't a difference between 442 and Cutlass coding.

The mystery continues!

Craig

69ho aurora

I had similar pieces in some of the 68 442 converts I had years ago. Cars are long gone, still have the papers...

BangScreech4-4-2

Check the data plate first. If it's a Lansing car, don't knock yourself out looking for a build sheet.


I've never seen the card displayed in the OP. It looks like some bastard derivative of the IBM trim cards I'm used to seeing. Maybe it was used in one of the "quirkier" plants?

1969w3155

Does the vin start with 34467?

allyolds68

I had the same card hog ringed under my rear seat. Mine has nothing on it that you can read but you can faintly see the typewriter indentations. Someday I'll try to get a good magnifying glass to read it. I think it was just the seat code to identify that it was a convertible Cutlass/442 seat (they're the same seat in 68). I've seen them with a date on them too

rob1960

I found one of the small cards hog-ringed under my rear seat cushion also. It was the only piece of factory paperwork that was in the car. Being a Lansing built car I guess I'm lucky to have it!! I did pull the seat backs but found nothing. The headliner & carpet have been replaced but the rest of the interior is original. The first line on the card, 4-305-3-7,305 is Nov 2 1967,it is a first wk of Nov '67 build(11A) on the cowl tag,the "3" I'm assuming is 3rd shift, any ideas what the 4 is for??maybe the line the seats were sewn on??

72xw30

I found the same little card under the rear seats of my 68 Hurst Olds. The second row of numbers on my card matched the BODY number of the car which is located on the cowl (data) tag.


In your case, the second set of numbers - 249330 should match the body number on the cowl (data) tag. If it doesn't match the numbers on the cowl (data) tag then the rear seat might have been changed or you have a card to another car which has happened before.

Have a great day!

Cheers,

Sam

allyolds68

This wasn't just a seat tag, it appears to be some type of Fisher Broadcast card


I assume you know these but:

A01- Tinted Windows
A39- Deluxe Seat belts, front & rear
A51-Strato Bucket Seats (the 940 tells you they're black buckets as well)
W29- ??????
U80- Rear Speaker


The W29 has me stumped. I thought that the W29 was the 442 option code pre-68 but there was no reason to have this on a 68 because there was no difference between the 442 and Cutlass S bodies. That's why the Lansing Built Fisher body tags didn't start with 344.


Now you've got me going. Up until now I always thought the tag I have was just a seat identifier. My card has green print as well. All I can make out on mine is a "82" or "32". I'm going to try scanning it tomorrow on hi-rez and see if I can make anything else out. I guess my next step will be to contact the FBI lab...lol

72xw30

On my card from the 68 Hurst, the following codes are listed on it:

4-74-28-2
XXXXXX
Body - 940
A51 , W29

XXXXXX = body number

So, I have the W29 option listed on this paper as well.

Cheers,

Sam

allyolds68

I scanned mine on Hi-Rez this AM


????? 22-6
can't read the body number but there's something there
3??? ??0 B2
W29 U80 ???


Considering from the naked eye the only thing I could make out before was the "B2" I'd say if I brought this to someone that knew what they were doing they could probably make out a lot more of it. My guess is the last option code that I can't read is probably U75 because I have a rear power antenna I think the hole was punched at Fisher Body and not Lansing.

rob1960

Oh-no Sam!! your H/O "74" build date shows 3-15-68 a Friday build!!! I'd bet that date code on our "cards" is the day the order was entered in the production system, the actual assembly date would have been a couple days(or more) later. I see both your card, 442 Craigs & mine all start with a "4",maybe that's some kind of plant or assembly line code?? Looks like the last 2 #s are anyone's guess,Craigs has 15-8,yours is 28-2. Mine is a 3-7,that's why I assumed the 3 was for 3rd shift but I guess not! My fisher body # 176155 is just over 500 behind my actual vin. How close are the ones on your H/O?? or anyone elses?

rob1960

Mike,since both yours & 442Craigs are both converts that B2 should be the paint & top color codes, my card(holiday coupe,code KK) has no paint codes on it. Must be something they did just on converts? Craigs is S-2,he did say his car was an original code S jade gold & the 2 would be for the black top,just like the data plate on the cowl. Was your car originally code B,twilight teal?

allyolds68

If my "B" is actually an "R" that would make sense. My cowl tag is "R2".


It's hard to make out. I assumed it was a "B" but I could only clearly make out the top of the letter.

442craig

Wow! I love this forum! I didn't know I was starting an Indiana Jones quest!

Well I guess I have now learned that my car originally had a black interior. Slowly but surely unraveling the mystery!

Thanks guys!

Craig

allyolds68

Post a pic of your cowl tag. The interior color and type (bucket or bench) and top color are also on your cowl tag (as well as exterior color).


If that tag from the seat is for your car it's a black bucket seat interior (940), Jade Gold (S) with a black convertible top (2).


The lack of option codes below the last line would tell me that you had no Fisher Body specific options that needed to be installed prior to the tub going to the assembling factory.

442craig

I'll post one when I get home from work

72xw30

This card is from a 68 Hurst Olds that was for sale last year online.
Again, it starts with a "4".

Cheers,

Sam
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karlskorner

Hello all,
I have been researching these for several years and believe they decode as follows.
4-241-7-5:
4 = Lansing Fisher Body Plant # 4.
241 = Sequence number.
7 = Day of Month (Probably Friday June 7, 1968)
5 = Hour of production.
411026 = Fisher Body number of car (LAN411026)
3687 - 940 = Cutlass two door hard top body with Black Bucket Seat Interior. 1968 Lansing built cars did not use the 34467, 77 or 87 numbers until 1969.
AO1 A51 (?) W29 Option codes AO1 = Soft Ray Tinted Glass, A51 = Strato Bucket Seats, W29 = 4-4-2. I hope this helps.
Regards Karl

Fun71

Which is about how old this thread is!

Good information, though.

karlskorner

Allyolds68 if you lay it flat and use a HD Digital camera with a flash, it will bring out some of the green ink used and you may see more of the information.
Regards,
Karl