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Old February 28th, 2015, 08:21 AM
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... tell him to stick it where the sun don't shine.
Yes, since it's working now, tell him to plug it in, stick it, and press the UP YOURS button on his dashboard.

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Old February 28th, 2015, 08:27 AM
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IF the buyer wants to return it and makes a complaint to ebay or paypay he will probably win it and be able to return it based on it was sold as NEW...doesnt really matter what you put in the description about what you regard as nos. ebay has to compete with amazon and if the buyer is not happy he will be taken care of... its not a swap meet jmo
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Old February 28th, 2015, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by pogo69
IF the buyer wants to return it and makes a complaint to ebay or paypay he will probably win it and be able to return it based on it was sold as NEW...doesnt really matter what you put in the description about what you regard as nos. ebay has to compete with amazon and if the buyer is not happy he will be taken care of... its not a swap meet jmo
Negative.
He won't win either scenario.
Ad stated clearly "NOS does NOT mean perfect. These parts are anywhere from 30 to 70 years old".

And, it can't be returned as it has now been tampered with.
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Old February 28th, 2015, 08:36 AM
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Stop communication with him, you are right, he is wrong, and there is a good chance he is trying to scam you out of money. If he keeps bugging you, open a complaint with ebay.
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Old February 28th, 2015, 09:55 AM
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This guy got what he paid for, a nos part, with nos grease in it. I have learned over the years that new old stock is never really perfect, and now he has learned the same thing.
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Old February 28th, 2015, 10:49 AM
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Old grease in a 50 year old part? Say it ain't so!

Tell him to pound sand. Not one penny, out of principle.
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Old February 28th, 2015, 07:00 PM
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The hard truth of this whole thing is that with ebays new policy is that if he complains enough to them they will automatically take the money from your account if there is the slightest chance they feel he's been wronged. As was said earlier they seem to stick up for the buyer first.
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Old February 28th, 2015, 07:36 PM
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I still say you owe him nothing. You need to contact EBAY NOW, and tell them whats going on.
Perfect show condition is completely different than perfect "working condition". Alot of trailer queen "show cars" do not even run, they have no internal components in the motor, no oil. They just look good for the "show"
So even better for him, this antenna looks new and if hes not lying, it now works like new too. But again maybe he is lying, maybe he opened it up and F%&*#ed it up, or robbed parts out of it. Anyway I think it would be in your best interest to contact EBAY ASAP.
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Old February 28th, 2015, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mrolds69
Ok...now there is NO question that the guy is a jerk, and a scammer. That IS extortion in my book. I don't think the "not meeting description" applies, because he chose to keep it AND he tampered with it. It's very easy for ebay to go back and look through the messages. If that exchange was in the messages and not by straight email, they will know. Time to play hardball and report this buyer. Just the fact that he's telling YOU how much you owe HIM pisses me off. Oh yeah...put him on your blocked list of buyers. Do that RIGHT NOW, that's important.
man you really sound 'out there' I dont see EVIDENCE that this person is a scammer, I read him as someone willing to spend high bucks for a nice part but wants it perfect. (maybe to perfect)
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Old February 28th, 2015, 08:44 PM
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I would send him a note back explaining that he had an opportunity prior to taking it apart to send it back for a full refund. Once the item was dismantled your responsibility ended and he became an owner.
X2. If he had an issue it should have been made known before dismantling the part. Now it is no longer a new part and can never be resold as such.
Unless you cave to his $75 ( even a partial will not appease this type, and he may even try again even if you do pay the 75 anyway ) you will hear from Ebay anyway.
I say with the advice from this thread bring it on. I have had dealings like this through Ebay before and have retained my 100% and had the venomous feedback removed, some folks are just mean.
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Old March 1st, 2015, 06:32 AM
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He did call me before supposedly cleaning the motor and wanted $100 back. That's when I offered a normally non returnable part refund as I had had a crappy day and really didn't want to listen to it. He didn't want to send it back due to the condition of the part being as nice as it gets but wanted compensation for it not working. The stalemate was my not bench testing it before the sale but no bidders asking me to either.
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Old March 1st, 2015, 06:35 AM
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There is no stalemate.

You sold him an NOS part, which was, as represented, an NOS part.

He is whining scum.

Open a case with eBay. He has opened, messed with, and, as far as you know, damaged the pristine NOS part which you sold him in good faith, and is attempting to renege on a legal contract, and fraudulently extort you.

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Old March 1st, 2015, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Indy_68_S
Negative.
He won't win either scenario.
Ad stated clearly "NOS does NOT mean perfect. These parts are anywhere from 30 to 70 years old".

And, it can't be returned as it has now been tampered with.
Lol, I wish ebay worked like that. eBay always sides with the buyer, sellers really take all the risk. If he wants to send it back for a full refund, he can. Doesn't matter if he screwed with it or not, or whether there was a return policy or not. That's his only option though, I don't think they enforce partial refunds. He either keeps it or sends it back.
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Old March 1st, 2015, 09:26 AM
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Like everyone said....contact ebay now. If he does it first, you look like you are in the wrong.
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Old March 1st, 2015, 09:40 AM
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Maybe he should stick the antenna where the sun don't shine ! jk . Actually It's up to you . I feel you don't have to do anything , but that would be your decision .
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Old March 1st, 2015, 09:56 AM
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If he read the listing then he has no basis whatever to complain.
As suggested, I would not accept a negative feedback from him.
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Old March 1st, 2015, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by pogo69
man you really sound 'out there' I dont see EVIDENCE that this person is a scammer, I read him as someone willing to spend high bucks for a nice part but wants it perfect. (maybe to perfect)
I did say I've bought and sold 5 THOUSAND items on ebay, right (at 100% FB)? Sorry you don't get it. I gave good advice. I'm not "out there", I call them like I see them!
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Old March 1st, 2015, 11:06 AM
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On a slightly digressive note, I've just begun selling off several boxes of old Porsche junk that I'll never use, and I've got a NOS engine compartment light for sale right now that you can buy new from vendors for about $60, but it's been bid up to $109 already, with another 3 days to go.

I wrote,
This is a NOS (New Old Stock) Porsche 911 / 912 Engine Compartment Lamp, manufactured by Hella.

I bought this lamp new around 1985 to install on the Porsche I had at that time, and never got around to it, and it has sat on a shelf in the garage ever since.

It has never been installed on any car.

Because it has sat, it has slight dullness to the chrome, which will probably come out with a light polishing (I can see no pitting or rust).

There does not appear to be anything wrong with it.
I'm getting a little worried that someone is going to buy it and think the friggin' thing is solid gold or something.

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Old March 1st, 2015, 01:51 PM
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Capitalism at it's finest Eric.
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Old March 1st, 2015, 02:40 PM
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Pat, if he sends it back I'll give you 50 bucks for it now that it's used and not sure if it works and I'll see if I can get it to fit one of my cars.
Just kidding with you, I doubt this issue will go any further, his wife is most likely pushing the issue.
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Old March 2nd, 2015, 11:54 AM
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Score me some Dead tickets and Ill send it to you!
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Old March 2nd, 2015, 01:41 PM
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Pat, I'll find out when they are playing one of the casinos up here (they are still playing right) and I'll see what I can do.
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Old March 2nd, 2015, 04:32 PM
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You sold an NOS part
he got what was described, he is just claiming that he understands NOS to mean "perfect" and that is *so* not the case.

what is his problem? 3 hours is NOTHING in the restoration prodess. It took a friend and me over 3 hours to install the MANUAL antenna in the 71 Challenger! The replacement fender was poorly made, and the support too far away, making the antenna nut threads unable to catch a thread. Take it out, fits fine... put it in, nope. Try a different orientaton- same result.... repeat. The fender maker should pay for our time, right?

I agree with the above
you need to start the epay case first for your protection.
notify your bank that no transfers are to be made to paypal/ epay.wthout your authorization.

I just saw a notice for the Grateful Dead at Chicago... seats... $1000. What has the world come to? Sit outside the stadium, or is that not allowed now? At least I hear Kid rock offers $20 tickets.
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Old March 2nd, 2015, 05:03 PM
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You owe him nothing let him complain. You were clear in your ad and he knew what he was buying. He tampered with it and now the part is no longer NOS and who knows what he did to it.
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Old March 2nd, 2015, 05:13 PM
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N O S is new old stock, fair amount of these parts when brand new were not perfect, you do not owe him a dime.
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Old March 2nd, 2015, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by classicmuscle.442
N O S is new old stock, fair amount of these parts when brand new were not perfect, you do not owe him a dime.
I believe this is an actual NOS part and therefore would be a perfect part for that application
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Old March 2nd, 2015, 05:48 PM
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I just saw a notice for the Grateful Dead at Chicago... seats... $1000. What has the world come to? Sit outside the stadium, or is that not allowed now?

I'm sorry, no way I'd pay $1000 to see the Grateful Dead without Jerry Garcia. Trey Anastasio is fine, Captain Trips he is not.

Seen the real McCoy too many times for far less and not far from their prime.
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Old March 2nd, 2015, 07:29 PM
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Steve, your problem is you never stay for the headliner. You always go home after Manilow closes his set.
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Old March 2nd, 2015, 07:48 PM
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Steve, your problem is you never stay for the headliner. You always go home after Manilow closes his set.
LoL now that was funny, you deserve positive feedback on that one
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Old March 2nd, 2015, 11:22 PM
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This is the #1 scam on ebay. Buyer says item damaged or another BS Story. And wants money back or partial refund-or he will leave a negative. Total BS!
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Old March 3rd, 2015, 02:33 AM
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E-Bay add was very clear. He's trying to squeeze money out of you.
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Old March 3rd, 2015, 05:02 PM
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You know, I usually have one incident like this per year. I even had a guy tell me the part he bought never arrived. I had to remind him about the shipment tracking number before he decided to drop it. LOL
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Old March 5th, 2015, 04:11 PM
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You know, I usually have one incident like this per year. I even had a guy tell me the part he bought never arrived. I had to remind him about the shipment tracking number before he decided to drop it. LOL
Weird
I have had an item shipped to Canada [despite my ads' text stating USA destinations only] disappear via USPS. I sent tracking # to buyer but I can do no more. The posi to Australia never arrived? I sent it to an address in CA, sent buyer tracking info, what more can I do? Then there is the "rebuilt" J heads that "still needed valves and guides..." Got that settled with a partial refund, 'cause I hate to have buyers feel they didn't get what they were buying...

Now I get this from ePay:

"Thanks for consistently delivering exceptional service to your buyers. We're here to provide you a marketplace where you can sell with confidence. That's why we've taken the following steps during the past month to protect your account:

Prevented 1 eBay Money Back Guarantee request(s) from being opened too early in the past 2 months
We've already updated your seller dashboard to reflect these changes, which are for transactions made during the past year. When we remove transaction defects, your transaction defect rate may not go down if you had transactions that received more than one defect."

I feel so safe now
ePay has me covered...

Oh I see a negative feedback from "steve505011"

Steven Szenti
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I sent a partial refund because shipping was not as bad as I first figured. I sent the item. I provided tracking # to epay and the buyer. Twice.

He issues NFB because he "never got the item"
WTH?

Banned bidder now of course.
Start the epay appeal process
Problems caused after the item leaves my hands are not MY FAULT.

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Old March 6th, 2015, 09:41 PM
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Well I guess it worked out. I didn't get neg feedback but got posted I'm a liar so alls well that ends well? Hopefully the other parts buyers like, makes up the difference?
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You are able to post a response to his feedback - would be a good way to hedge any negative impression someone may get. "Sent him properly described NOS item, complains that it requires cleaning - people sometimes!" could go a long way.
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Old March 6th, 2015, 09:59 PM
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you are able to post a response to his feedback - would be a good way to hedge any negative impression someone may get. "sent him properly described nos item, complains that it requires cleaning - people sometimes!" could go a long way.

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x2
x3

Simply post "Buyer didn't read ad or understand concept of NOS parts."
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Old March 7th, 2015, 06:41 AM
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Well I guess it worked out. I didn't get neg feedback but got posted I'm a liar so alls well that ends well? Hopefully the other parts buyers like, makes up the difference?
what feed back rating did you get... actually its as i suspected he was not out to scam anyone he was just very fussy probably similar to a lot of people on here, he left POSITIVE feedback

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I couldn't post a response. I guess if its technically left as positive you can't follow up. Oh well.
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