Perry615

Anybody have the specs of both cars. I currently hve a 1984 cutlass calais and I May be looking to get a '84 442 with a 350. If Any one has exeprience with both cars or advice about which would be better it would be appreciated

hajnovak

They didn't make a 1984 442 just the hurst/olds. They came out with the 442 in 1985 till 1987. Mark

Allan R

Biggest engine you could get with an 84 Calais or H/O was a 307. As long as you're good with what's been transplanted and you like the car/price go for it.

What kind of specs are you looking for anyway?

DeltaPace77

My brother had an 83' Hurst Olds, and a real pretty car. Had a 307 in it, but a little higher hp version than the other cars. Rather nice package really, with a 3.73 rear axle and 4 speed od tranny. No rocket ship, but held it's own. Ran dead even with a friends 86' Chevy 305 Monte Carlo SS. He bought it used, and actually made money on it after driving it a few years.

Allan R

The 83/84 H/O's had the Y code 307.

hajnovak

The 83 Hurst/Olds 307 was a 9 code the 84 was a y code. I currently own an 83 (my 2nd one) I have a bunch of literature if you let me know what specs you're looking for . Mark

Allan R

BOTH the 83 and 84 were Y code W40 engines. The 9 you're referring to is in the VIN (8th placeholder) which represents the Y code engine.

We're both talking about the same thing here.

hajnovak

I agree sorry for mis-speaking. I wasn't implying you were wrong.

DoubleV

OK, what am I missing here, as this info posted above seems all wrong to me.

A Y code engine is just the base Olds 307 found in various 80's GM cars. The Y code comes from the fact that every car equipped with the base 307 had a Y in the 8th digit of it's VIN.

The 9 code engine is the high output 307 found only in the 83-84 Hurst Olds and the 85-87 442's. The 9 code comes from the fact that these cars equipped with the high output 307 had a 9 in the 8th digit of it's VIN.

The Y code/ 9 code has nothing to do with whether or not the 307 had the swirlport heads.

Rocket331

x2. The 9 code (LV2 option code) was included in the W40 option package and used a little bigger cam, heavier valve springs (same springs as 5.7 diesel), recalibrated carb, aluminum intake, and dual snorkel air cleaner. I don't recall the heads differed in any other way from the standard 307.

Allan R

Why?

And I said the 83/84 HO had the W40 307 Y code engine, with the 9 in the VIN identifying that.

Perry615

I realized that after I did research. He told me it was a 84 442. The pictures have the 442 emblem on the back and the gold trim. Also has 350 rocket in it. Could this be an original? The guy doesn't know too much about the car. Any thoughts on what year it is? Also has Ttops

Perry615

Here are pictures

mike's88

Car is not original. As others said, no 442 model in 84, nor was the 350 available in the g body.

Allan R

1. No, the 350 is not original. When you ask about thoughts on year, do you mean engine? If so, see 2.
2. Look on the engine stamping pad. That will tell you the brand, assembly plant, year and last 6 digits from the VIN of the donor car.
3. T tops were a cool option but not limited to Calais

Does the car have the rallye gage cluster? That's a nice feature. Had that in my 78 and 82.

DoubleV

That makes no sense. What is your definition of a Y code 307? What are you saying a Y code engine is?

A 'Y code' engine is simply the term we use for the base 307 found in NON Hurst Olds/442's because those cars have the Y in their VIN. The '9 code' is the term we use to mean the high output 307 found in all of the 80's Hurst Olds/442's because they have a 9 in their VIN. So if you had a Hurst Olds, how could it be a Y code engine and/or why would one actually call it a Y code engine when there's a 9 in the VIN and no Y anywhere?

Allan R

Ok, I see your point. W40 is the option for the HO package. So it has an engine designated LV2 which some other books describe as a modified Y (oldsmobile produced) engine. Although informative, this whole thing was about the OP asking if the car he's interested in came with a 350, which it obviously didn't. Thank you for your comments.

to the OP. I found this info on the 84 HO on web if you want to look at the specs

88hurstolds

VIN9 307 came in 83-84 Hurst Olds and 85-87 442's.
The VINY 307 came in 81-88 Cutlass base models.
83-85 VIN9's had flat tappet cams while '86-87 VIN9's had roller cams and swirl ports.
Another misnomer people sometimes spew is that '83 H/O's came with 8.5" rears.
A 442 did not exist in '84, another common misnomer...

Rocket331

Did we go off on a tangent again? Sorry!