yeah yeah iam a newbie (lmao)

onecutlass · February 18th, 2009, 09:06 AM

hi all names shawn.p i have 1983 cutlass supreme ! new to the site !
looking to do a engine swap next yeah and geta paint job.exaust and tints soon ! i'll have lots of question seeing that i have a v8and the car came with a v6 lol! in the near feature iam looking to get buckets and redo the intior ! great to have a bunch or oldsguy on my team can wait to finish my first love ! thanks in advance fellas!

Lady72nRob71 · February 18th, 2009, 09:11 AM

Welcome to the group, Shawn!

What kind of V8 are you swapping in? I assume the 307 is in it now, replacing the original V6?
You will find a lot of info here and also check out oldsgmail.com, as they specialize in the Olds g-body.
Keep up posted with your progress!

I remember learning to drive on an 87 Camaro (with a 350) at Sears driving school long ago... That was one cool car; they had Mustangs, also. I loved it when they "made" you get on it when entering a freeway! Nowdays the driving schools use little crap-cars...

OLD SKL 69 · February 18th, 2009, 09:22 AM

Welcome to our group! Please update us with some pictures when you get a chance.

onecutlass · February 18th, 2009, 09:47 AM

yep there a v8 already in it the first v8 was a early 307! the transplant was a ''roller 307'' but i really wanna drop a nice 403 ! but right now iam thankful for a good running engine! so i can be picky on a budget seein that iam try to restore two cars at once ! oh yeah iam getting there ! it keeps me out of trouble and busy ! iam greatful all in all !
heres a link to the pics of the car as it sits now.................................

http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ar%20projects/

onecutlass · February 18th, 2009, 09:52 AM

i'll have more pics if i have good weather this weekend ! the only other upgrade is beside the roller motor and trans is the racing cross member the tips and the flowmasters ! more to come !

onecutlass · February 18th, 2009, 10:03 AM

well while iam here i have a tech wiring/engine question would the wiring for the water temp,battery,oil pressure still be the same now that i swapped over to a v8 ?
b/c when i got the car none of the gauges work thers a bunch of wiries in a bundle on the drives side and the connector are shot too ! the only thing that work were the head lights and the eletrical fan the car ran great loud as a 747 i named it the battery killer lmao ! any help would be helpful thanks in advance !

Oldsguy · February 18th, 2009, 10:14 AM

Welcome to our site. Not sure but I am thinking the harness would be different from a 260 to a 307 but just guessing. You may have some work ahead of you but if you are swapping an engine it should not be as hard to do while the engine is out.

onecutlass · February 18th, 2009, 10:40 AM

thanks i ment the hookups on the engine fron the wiring harness ! b/c when i ran the vin it said the car came with a v6 but when the first swap was done they dropped the v8 in and didn't use these wires ! so to speak hypathecally what if the car came with a v8 and the dash was from a v6 car where else would i look too confirm it's a v8 or a v6 car ?

Jamesbo · February 18th, 2009, 10:59 AM

Welcome aboard,

Post some pics pronto.

onecutlass · February 19th, 2009, 09:26 AM

onecutlass · February 19th, 2009, 09:30 AM

going to take more pics got a break with the rain thanks again for the help fellas !

citcapp · February 19th, 2009, 05:32 PM

onecutlass, welcome to the site. Project cars are what we do here. Hope you get the answers you need

onecutlass · February 21st, 2009, 08:16 PM

THANKS CLODWAR !
heres some more pics of my project !

the bad stuff (bodywork)

onecutlass · February 21st, 2009, 08:28 PM

heres more fellas!

Brizio · February 22nd, 2009, 03:57 AM

Welcome aboard!

csstrux · February 22nd, 2009, 05:04 AM

You can tell she has sat in the sun, but over all is not a bad project at all. If I found something like that up here, I'd be all over it

. Good find and welcome to the site.

Lady72nRob71 · February 22nd, 2009, 07:14 AM

onecutlass,

It looks like you have a good project on your hands! In all of your "bad" shots, I did not see too much rust at all - very good.
It looks like most of your issues are cosmetic which which will be easier to fix. One nice thing (sort of) is that this is a new enough year that salvage yards will still have some of these cars.

As for your wiring harness, I would find a car in a yard with a 307 and yank the front harness that connects right up to the firewall connection at the fuse block. It will be compatible with other Olds V8's also. That would cost next to nothing if you buy some other parts, providing it is a good yard... The VIN will have an "engine digit" that will ID your original engine.

One thing I would do is to lose that rubber fuel line with the inline filter if it is on the pressure side of the fuel pump. I have seen too many rupture, which can cause engine fires.

Make sure to get a chassis service manual first - it will be your most valuable tool.

Are you planning on a full restoration, a daily driver, or ??
Thanks for saving this one!

onecutlass · February 22nd, 2009, 10:41 AM

it's gonna be a daily drive for now but a resto is in order when i get a better job and garage (LOL) well the bad side is most of the yards here have been spanked by the EPA so it 92 and up they crush everything else than comes in if it totaled ! so it makes it hard to find parts it took me about 6 months to finds a good runnin 307 engine ! this town swears by chevy 350 but iam savin uo for a 403 or a olds 350 rocket ! so i have to find patrs online in fourms and websites!
as much trouble as this thing has been to me it makes me love her more and more lol
thanks for the info and bout the wiring harness and the fuel lines ! thanks again guys !

Bluevista · February 22nd, 2009, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onecutlass

THANKS CLODWAR !

Belated Welcome.

I loved having dirt clod wars! When they are just right it looks like a big puff of smoke when they hit.

Sorry, you hung that one right in the strike zone.

I have a console just like that in my Astro Van, I can't drive without it. I have to do the Detroit lean when I'm stylin' on the streets.

citcapp · February 22nd, 2009, 11:25 AM

A mistress is like that. Always a little tarnished with their hand in the pocket the holds your wallet. In your eyes they shine while always asking for more. Ah but we all love them anyway

ozoneblue · February 22nd, 2009, 11:46 AM

Welcome Shawn From The Mo. Ozarks Susan & Larry@ vintageozarks.com

onecutlass · February 26th, 2009, 12:20 AM

thanks ozone !

onecutlass · February 26th, 2009, 12:22 AM

blue thanks for rippin me a new one lol it's all good ! that the result of long days and short nights ! i work too much and just think in a few short months i'll be going to school full time !

onecutlass · February 26th, 2009, 12:29 AM

citcapp indeed she is iam buy parts for her like every week and the misses is mad only b/c iam not working on her girl my camaro lmao ! well i took more pics of my projects nothing fancy just installed front turnsignal,grills, a new underhood light,and newer reverse light enjoy fellas more to come!

before

after
thanks for looking !

February 18th, 2009, 09:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
onecutlass R.I.P S.K.P Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TALLAHASSEE,FLORIDA Posts: 19	yeah yeah iam a newbie (lmao) hi all names shawn.p i have 1983 cutlass supreme ! new to the site ! looking to do a engine swap next yeah and geta paint job.exaust and tints soon ! i'll have lots of question seeing that i have a v8and the car came with a v6 lol! in the near feature iam looking to get buckets and redo the intior ! great to have a bunch or oldsguy on my team can wait to finish my first love ! thanks in advance fellas! __________________ my misstress 83 olds cutlass supreme 307/200-4r my girl's girlfriend 84 camaro z-28/iroc-z ho/hp305/350

February 18th, 2009, 09:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
Lady72nRob71 Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 1,916	Welcome to the group, Shawn! What kind of V8 are you swapping in? I assume the 307 is in it now, replacing the original V6? You will find a lot of info here and also check out oldsgmail.com, as they specialize in the Olds g-body. Keep up posted with your progress! I remember learning to drive on an 87 Camaro (with a 350) at Sears driving school long ago... That was one cool car; they had Mustangs, also. I loved it when they "made" you get on it when entering a freeway! Nowdays the driving schools use little crap-cars... __________________ -Rob Young 1972 Cutlass Supreme Convertible (442 clone) -"Lady" (My mistress...) http://www.flickr.com/photos/robsalbum/sets/ 1986 Cutlass Supreme Coupe - "Pristine" 1978 Ford (Old Faithful) a.k.a. "the Tramp" 1997 Cadillac STS (for sale - too many cars!) 1999 Harley Davidson Sportster - "the Freedom Machine" Last edited by Lady72nRob71; February 18th, 2009 at 09:14 AM..

February 18th, 2009, 09:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
OLD SKL 69 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 307	Welcome to our group! Please update us with some pictures when you get a chance. __________________ Darrell 1971 Cutlass Supreme

February 18th, 2009, 09:47 AM	#4 (permalink)
onecutlass R.I.P S.K.P Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TALLAHASSEE,FLORIDA Posts: 19	mr.newbie 2 u sucka (lmao) yep there a v8 already in it the first v8 was a early 307! the transplant was a ''roller 307'' but i really wanna drop a nice 403 ! but right now iam thankful for a good running engine! so i can be picky on a budget seein that iam try to restore two cars at once ! oh yeah iam getting there ! it keeps me out of trouble and busy ! iam greatful all in all ! heres a link to the pics of the car as it sits now................................. http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ar%20projects/ __________________ my misstress 83 olds cutlass supreme 307/200-4r my girl's girlfriend 84 camaro z-28/iroc-z ho/hp305/350

February 18th, 2009, 09:52 AM	#5 (permalink)
onecutlass R.I.P S.K.P Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TALLAHASSEE,FLORIDA Posts: 19	i'll have more pics if i have good weather this weekend ! the only other upgrade is beside the roller motor and trans is the racing cross member the tips and the flowmasters ! more to come ! __________________ my misstress 83 olds cutlass supreme 307/200-4r my girl's girlfriend 84 camaro z-28/iroc-z ho/hp305/350

February 18th, 2009, 10:03 AM	#6 (permalink)
onecutlass R.I.P S.K.P Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TALLAHASSEE,FLORIDA Posts: 19	well while iam here i have a tech wiring/engine question would the wiring for the water temp,battery,oil pressure still be the same now that i swapped over to a v8 ? b/c when i got the car none of the gauges work thers a bunch of wiries in a bundle on the drives side and the connector are shot too ! the only thing that work were the head lights and the eletrical fan the car ran great loud as a 747 i named it the battery killer lmao ! any help would be helpful thanks in advance ! __________________ my misstress 83 olds cutlass supreme 307/200-4r my girl's girlfriend 84 camaro z-28/iroc-z ho/hp305/350 Last edited by onecutlass; February 18th, 2009 at 10:05 AM..

February 18th, 2009, 10:14 AM	#7 (permalink)
Oldsguy Hot Rodder at heart Administrator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lees Summit MO Posts: 5,360	Welcome to our site. Not sure but I am thinking the harness would be different from a 260 to a 307 but just guessing. You may have some work ahead of you but if you are swapping an engine it should not be as hard to do while the engine is out. __________________ Dan '77 Cutlass Supreme '46 2 door "The rocket 455.....it's a sledgehammer approach to a thumbtack world" LuxBlue of HAMB.

February 18th, 2009, 10:40 AM	#8 (permalink)
onecutlass R.I.P S.K.P Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TALLAHASSEE,FLORIDA Posts: 19	thanks i ment the hookups on the engine fron the wiring harness ! b/c when i ran the vin it said the car came with a v6 but when the first swap was done they dropped the v8 in and didn't use these wires ! so to speak hypathecally what if the car came with a v8 and the dash was from a v6 car where else would i look too confirm it's a v8 or a v6 car ? __________________ my misstress 83 olds cutlass supreme 307/200-4r my girl's girlfriend 84 camaro z-28/iroc-z ho/hp305/350

February 18th, 2009, 10:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
Jamesbo Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 2,857	Welcome Welcome aboard, Post some pics pronto. __________________ 69 H/O 69 442 convertible 69 Vista Cruiser 69 442 hardtop "Growing old is mandatory,Growing up is optional"

February 19th, 2009, 09:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
onecutlass R.I.P S.K.P Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TALLAHASSEE,FLORIDA Posts: 19	here are some pic guys ...... <a href="http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...Picture008.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...Picture008.jpg" border="0" alt="the roller 307 2"></a> <a href="http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...Picture007.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...Picture007.jpg" border="0" alt="ding 3"></a> <a href="http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...Picture006.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...Picture006.jpg" border="0" alt="ding 2"></a> <a href="http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...Picture005.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...Picture005.jpg" border="0" alt="ding 1"></a> <a href="http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...Picture004.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...Picture004.jpg" border="0" alt="door rust"></a> <a href="http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...t=P3110137.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/P3110137.jpg" border="0" alt="backshot2"></a> <a href="http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...t=IMG_0803.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/IMG_0803.jpg" border="0" alt="the roller 307"></a> <a href="http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...t=IMG_0802.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/IMG_0802.jpg" border="0" alt="front shotview"></a> <a href="http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...t=IMG_0800.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/IMG_0800.jpg" border="0" alt="passanger sideview"></a> <a href="http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...t=IMG_0799.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/IMG_0799.jpg" border="0" alt="backshot view"></a> i'll have more in the next few day it's rainy here ! __________________ my misstress 83 olds cutlass supreme 307/200-4r my girl's girlfriend 84 camaro z-28/iroc-z ho/hp305/350

February 19th, 2009, 09:30 AM	#11 (permalink)
onecutlass R.I.P S.K.P Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TALLAHASSEE,FLORIDA Posts: 19	going to take more pics got a break with the rain thanks again for the help fellas ! __________________ my misstress 83 olds cutlass supreme 307/200-4r my girl's girlfriend 84 camaro z-28/iroc-z ho/hp305/350

February 19th, 2009, 05:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
citcapp Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 3,445	onecutlass, welcome to the site. Project cars are what we do here. Hope you get the answers you need __________________ Pat 1957 Super 88 with a 455 1948 2dr series 76 with a 455

February 21st, 2009, 08:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
onecutlass R.I.P S.K.P Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TALLAHASSEE,FLORIDA Posts: 19	THANKS CLODWAR ! heres some more pics of my project ! the bad stuff (bodywork) __________________ my misstress 83 olds cutlass supreme 307/200-4r my girl's girlfriend 84 camaro z-28/iroc-z ho/hp305/350

February 21st, 2009, 08:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
onecutlass R.I.P S.K.P Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TALLAHASSEE,FLORIDA Posts: 19	heres more fellas! __________________ my misstress 83 olds cutlass supreme 307/200-4r my girl's girlfriend 84 camaro z-28/iroc-z ho/hp305/350

February 22nd, 2009, 03:57 AM	#15 (permalink)
Brizio Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 29	Welcome aboard!

February 22nd, 2009, 05:04 AM	#16 (permalink)
csstrux Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Janesville wisconsin Posts: 1,659	You can tell she has sat in the sun, but over all is not a bad project at all. If I found something like that up here, I'd be all over it. Good find and welcome to the site. __________________ Chad Greed: in psychology is an excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth

February 22nd, 2009, 07:14 AM	#17 (permalink)
Lady72nRob71 Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 1,916	onecutlass, It looks like you have a good project on your hands! In all of your "bad" shots, I did not see too much rust at all - very good. It looks like most of your issues are cosmetic which which will be easier to fix. One nice thing (sort of) is that this is a new enough year that salvage yards will still have some of these cars. As for your wiring harness, I would find a car in a yard with a 307 and yank the front harness that connects right up to the firewall connection at the fuse block. It will be compatible with other Olds V8's also. That would cost next to nothing if you buy some other parts, providing it is a good yard... The VIN will have an "engine digit" that will ID your original engine. One thing I would do is to lose that rubber fuel line with the inline filter if it is on the pressure side of the fuel pump. I have seen too many rupture, which can cause engine fires. Make sure to get a chassis service manual first - it will be your most valuable tool. Are you planning on a full restoration, a daily driver, or ?? Thanks for saving this one! __________________ -Rob Young 1972 Cutlass Supreme Convertible (442 clone) -"Lady" (My mistress...) http://www.flickr.com/photos/robsalbum/sets/ 1986 Cutlass Supreme Coupe - "Pristine" 1978 Ford (Old Faithful) a.k.a. "the Tramp" 1997 Cadillac STS (for sale - too many cars!) 1999 Harley Davidson Sportster - "the Freedom Machine" Last edited by Lady72nRob71; February 22nd, 2009 at 07:16 AM..

February 22nd, 2009, 10:41 AM	#18 (permalink)
onecutlass R.I.P S.K.P Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TALLAHASSEE,FLORIDA Posts: 19	it's gonna be a daily drive for now but a resto is in order when i get a better job and garage (LOL) well the bad side is most of the yards here have been spanked by the EPA so it 92 and up they crush everything else than comes in if it totaled ! so it makes it hard to find parts it took me about 6 months to finds a good runnin 307 engine ! this town swears by chevy 350 but iam savin uo for a 403 or a olds 350 rocket ! so i have to find patrs online in fourms and websites! as much trouble as this thing has been to me it makes me love her more and more lol thanks for the info and bout the wiring harness and the fuel lines ! thanks again guys ! __________________ my misstress 83 olds cutlass supreme 307/200-4r my girl's girlfriend 84 camaro z-28/iroc-z ho/hp305/350

February 22nd, 2009, 11:25 AM	#20 (permalink)
citcapp Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 3,445	A mistress is like that. Always a little tarnished with their hand in the pocket the holds your wallet. In your eyes they shine while always asking for more. Ah but we all love them anyway __________________ Pat 1957 Super 88 with a 455 1948 2dr series 76 with a 455

February 22nd, 2009, 11:46 AM	#21 (permalink)
ozoneblue Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 503	Welcome Welcome Shawn From The Mo. Ozarks Susan & Larry@ vintageozarks.com __________________ OzoneBlue project cars for sale

February 26th, 2009, 12:20 AM	#22 (permalink)
onecutlass R.I.P S.K.P Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TALLAHASSEE,FLORIDA Posts: 19	thanks ozone ! __________________ my misstress 83 olds cutlass supreme 307/200-4r my girl's girlfriend 84 camaro z-28/iroc-z ho/hp305/350

February 26th, 2009, 12:22 AM	#23 (permalink)
onecutlass R.I.P S.K.P Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TALLAHASSEE,FLORIDA Posts: 19	blue thanks for rippin me a new one lol it's all good ! that the result of long days and short nights ! i work too much and just think in a few short months i'll be going to school full time ! __________________ my misstress 83 olds cutlass supreme 307/200-4r my girl's girlfriend 84 camaro z-28/iroc-z ho/hp305/350

February 26th, 2009, 12:29 AM	#24 (permalink)
onecutlass R.I.P S.K.P Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TALLAHASSEE,FLORIDA Posts: 19	citcapp indeed she is iam buy parts for her like every week and the misses is mad only b/c iam not working on her girl my camaro lmao ! well i took more pics of my projects nothing fancy just installed front turnsignal,grills, a new underhood light,and newer reverse light enjoy fellas more to come! before after thanks for looking ! __________________ my misstress 83 olds cutlass supreme 307/200-4r my girl's girlfriend 84 camaro z-28/iroc-z ho/hp305/350

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