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Old 12-09-2007, 07:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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'70 Cutlass s/x

Hi, All, I got a line today on a '70 Cutlass s/x, 455, auto.

It's a strong runner and doesnt' need any thing but a radio.

Guys, I dont know jack s##t about anything newer than '64.

Is this car worth $4000?

Please advise, Thanks, Jeff

BTW, whats the difference between this and a 442?
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Those things are awesome.
I'd get it.
Go to
www.sx455.com
for some cool pics and junk

It's better than blowing 10 bucks on smokes and taco bell.
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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LOL, Yeah, but you can buy a hellava lotta puffs and burritos for 4k!
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I wonder if it has already been registered, is a clone, or if you simply came across a nice original car by chance. Let me know how it goes for you. Sounds like a fun Olds adventure.
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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HOLY CRAP, just looked at the link. a W-32?

Looks like this one found a home. Thanks J

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Old 12-09-2007, 08:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I wonder if it has already been registered, is a clone, or if you simply came across a nice original car by chance. Let me know how it goes for you. Sounds like a fun Olds adventure.

If I post the VIN can we find out exactly what it is? (they want money for the info on the sx site)
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I don't think there were many W-32s
A lot of these just seem like regular cutlasses with cool bumpers.
But even so, they are still cool. I'd definitly do some detective work.
You may have found a gem , or a regular cutlass, either way 4 grand seems do able if it is a really nice one.
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yeah I'm pretty sure that is what the site is all about.
Finding lost SX cars
and registering them to see what survived.

the 10 bucks thing is kinda lame, but hey. You never know what you're gonna find.
Like playing the lottery every week, expect to lose, but maybe just maybe.
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
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OK, I'll look at the car again on tuesday and copy the vin down.

It was originally a gold color but was repainted white, are there any tell-tale signs I should look for?
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I really don't know much more about them than that.
That's why I said you'd probably be better off giving them the 10bucks instead of going to taco bell
I wish I could help more, but I kinda missed the boat on those, being born in 82
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Old 12-09-2007, 09:04 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I really don't know much more about them than that.
That's why I said you'd probably be better off giving them the 10bucks instead of going to taco bell
I wish I could help more, but I kinda missed the boat on those, being born in 82

Hey, dont feel pregnant, I was born in '62 and you knew more about them than I did.

Thanks for your input, Jeff

maybe I'll spend the ten bucks

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Old 12-09-2007, 09:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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it is extremely easy to clone a SX. the only way to 100% document one is the original invoices, window sticker, or build (tank) sheet. the VIN will only tell you body style, assembly plant and 6 or 8 cylinder. the sheets are located in the back seat lower springs or on top of the gas tank. the sx455.com site can give the the complete 411 about what to look for. many cloners overlook the extra fender brace on the front fender. if it indeed a true SX it would be worth $4,000.

the only way to get a 455 in a supreme body from the factory in 70 and 71 was with the Y79 option. 442's were the "S" body style. the SX's had softer suspensions and higher (read lower numerical) gear ratios. mine has 2.73s and will melt the tires in 1st and 2nd. the supreme interiors were a little more refined than the S's

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Old 12-16-2007, 12:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Hi, All, I got a line today on a '70 Cutlass s/x, 455, auto.

It's a strong runner and doesnt' need any thing but a radio.

Guys, I dont know jack s##t about anything newer than '64.

Is this car worth $4000?

Please advise, Thanks, Jeff

BTW, whats the difference between this and a 442?
It's a W-32 and a real SX if it has an OG trans tag and the VIN number matching the car's VIN is stamped on the trans case. That's ABSOLUTELY worth buying at $4K. If it's an OD trans with the matching VIN, it's a factory 455 car and most likely (but not always) an SX. Are the SX emblems off-center (correct) or centered under the Cutlass badges (wrong and likely a clone)? Does it have the cutout bumper and #s matching 455 with E heads? If it is not rusty, I'd be all over it at $4K. What letter is in the VIN? If it's an M for Lansing, look in the backs of the bucket seats or under the rear seat or carpet for the Fisher Body broadcast sheet, but it probably won't have a Y79. They usually don't. Arlington (R), Fremont (Z) or Linden cars used 8x11 build sheets that will have the Y79 if it's an SX. If it's a Z Fremont car, look under the rear window package tray. If it's a Linden car, look under the front seat springs, usually the passenger side bucket bottom. I hope you have a good find.

I'm one of the co-founders of the SX455 site. Is the info helpful? It costs a sh*tload more than $10 to host that site annually and we put dozens of hours a year to maintain that site to help others in situations like yours. $10 just helps us defray costs a little and can save you from buying a bogus car or can help verify that you found a gem. I probably just gave you the $10 worth of info and I hope it helps you out. Please send me some pics and info on the car in return, please. I'd like to add it to the site.
Thanks -
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Old 12-16-2007, 01:20 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Good good. Thanks Terry.
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Old 12-16-2007, 06:21 PM   #15 (permalink)
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You go Terry! Terry knows just about everything you would want to know about the SX Cutlass. I have a Production code A and B sheet for my SX. One has the codes for the 455 and th400 to show it is a trus SX, not a W-32 though, damnit!
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:38 PM   #16 (permalink)
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OK, Terry, I'll look into this further.
If and when I buy this car (it's not on the market, a friend of mine owns it) I WILL supply you with all the info and post pics. Also i'm joining your site.

THANK YOU, Jeff
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Old 04-06-2008, 03:50 PM   #17 (permalink)
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here it is

CRAP! I'm having trouble with the pics, they are on the way...
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Old 04-08-2008, 09:04 PM   #18 (permalink)
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try this

maybe now;
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Old 04-08-2008, 09:06 PM   #19 (permalink)
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OMG It's prettier than I thought it was going to be!!
I'm glad Terry and I could help out.


Classicoldsmobile For the win!!!!
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Old 04-08-2008, 09:43 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Me too, J, Man I'm jazzed about this one!

More pics this weekend,


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Old 04-09-2008, 01:39 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Hopefully the block is original but the quadrajet is unlikely and the EGR valved intake sure doesn't belong. Rest of the car looks right enough except for the unusual (to me) side mirror. I'd be very wary of rust.
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Old 04-09-2008, 03:15 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Sweet deal man. Gorgeous car, Congrats!!!
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Old 04-09-2008, 05:02 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The car looks really good overall. I agree that the mirror is not an original piece.

Here's a link on my V Code site to where to find the block VIN.

http://www.highoctaneauto.com/newpage66.htm

Check the VIN on the OG trans too - if it matches, the car was a W32.

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