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Old September 6th, 2014, 07:17 AM
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72 w30 x code aka holy grail

http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/cto/4654522747.html

not mine(I wish).
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Old September 6th, 2014, 08:10 AM
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I see nothing in the ad that verifies this is an X code car
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Old September 6th, 2014, 08:12 AM
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the owner told me via text
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Old September 6th, 2014, 08:16 AM
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He should include a picture of the VIN to validate it to potential buyers
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Old September 6th, 2014, 09:45 AM
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Just curious as to why a 72 X code is supposedly "the holy grail"?
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Old September 6th, 2014, 09:49 AM
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I spoke to him last night he said it's a x vin but not a factory 4 speed car
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Old September 6th, 2014, 10:20 AM
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Just curious as to why a 72 X code is supposedly "the holy grail"?
Because 1972 was the only year that you could confirm that a 442 was a W30 just by looking at the vin, the "X" being the identifier.
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Old September 6th, 2014, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 1969w3155
Because 1972 was the only year that you could confirm that a 442 was a W30 just by looking at the vin, the "X" being the identifier.
I know and fully understand that but still don't see why it's the "holy grail". I would think that title would be reserved for either the 70 W-30 or the 68-69 HO cars. Kind of like how the "holy grail" of Chevelles would be the 70 LS-6 as it was the king of all Chevelles and not a low compression 72 model.
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Well, I think that most consider the '70 W30 the top Olds Muscle, along with, I would say '68-69 H/O's, of course others may chime in with their opinion. I think that we (on this site) get a little geeked whenever a W machine comes up for sale.
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Old September 6th, 2014, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by chadman
Just curious as to why a 72 X code is supposedly "the holy grail"?
I was wondering the same thing but each to their own.
But based on sales yes the 70 W-30's dictate the money "holy grail"
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Old September 6th, 2014, 01:30 PM
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what if I said a holy grail for the yr 1972?

we all have our favorite olds and to me X code W identifier is unique.
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Originally Posted by nj_cutlass72
what if I said a holy grail for the yr 1972?

we all have our favorite olds and to me X code W identifier is unique.
that works
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way to much use of the word "holy grail" with all the makes/models. the word "holy grail" is as good as numbers matching nowadays. everbody has their own idea what it means but to me it is the rarest model with the top dog motor +4speed, and sprinkled with some ultra rare options!! give me a 1970 442 pace car w-30 4 speed and a w-27 please "HOLY GRAIL" !!!!
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If you want to talk "holy grail" for the 1972 model year, talk about an X-code 72 H/O Holiday Coupe with sunroof (which is NOT a 442, by the way).

And anytime someone mentions "holy grail" my first response is "what is the airspeed of a swallow?"
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Originally Posted by nj_cutlass72
what if I said a holy grail for the yr 1972?

we all have our favorite olds and to me X code W identifier is unique.
I'm with you NJ. 1972s may not be the most powerful of all the W machines but they are fast enough. I think 1972 was the best looking model of Cutlass/442. Especially the Viking Blue/white color combo. Just gorgeous.
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
If you want to talk "holy grail" for the 1972 model year, talk about an X-code 72 H/O Holiday Coupe with sunroof (which is NOT a 442, by the way).

I've only ever heard of one still being around. I think they made like three of them
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Originally Posted by charlierogers
way to much use of the word "holy grail" with all the makes/models. the word "holy grail" is as good as numbers matching nowadays. everbody has their own idea what it means but to me it is the rarest model with the top dog motor +4speed, and sprinkled with some ultra rare options!! give me a 1970 442 pace car w-30 4 speed and a w-27 please "HOLY GRAIL" !!!!
Get off the crack!! Supreme body style! Please !!Don't get wrong but not Holy Grail. A very cool car yes.
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"And anytime someone mentions "holy grail" my first response is "what is the airspeed of a swallow?"

African or European?
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Supreme body style Definately an acquired taste
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Old September 6th, 2014, 09:13 PM
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I always had a harder time selling or flipping a 70-72 supreme. Everyone wants fastbacks or true square bodies 64-67
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Old September 6th, 2014, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by charlierogers
...give me a 1970 442 pace car w-30 4 speed and a w-27 please "HOLY GRAIL" !!!!
x2 especially the actual pace car #1 barn find!!!

...and, by the way, I prefer the Supreme body style and think the '70 Cutlass/442 convertible is one of the most beautiful convertible bodies of any make/model/year muscle car. I personally never appreciated the "eyebrow" line on the '70-'72 Cutlass S/442 quarter panel.
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Old September 7th, 2014, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Hurst/Olds 73/74
I personally never appreciated the "eyebrow" line on the '70-'72 Cutlass S/442 quarter panel.
X2!!! This is why I've always preferred the 68-69 Holiday coupes (and VCs) to the 70-72 cars. I do agree that the 70-72 convertibles look better than the prior years, however.
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awesome!!
holier-then-thou grail
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Originally Posted by Hurst/Olds 73/74
I personally never appreciated the "eyebrow" line on the '70-'72 Cutlass S/442 quarter panel.
That is the feature I love the most when talking about styling. Not only do I love the look, it also sets the Cutlass/442 apart from their GM cousins. (Skylark, GTO, Chevelle) I prefer the "Holiday" version. To each his own.

Supremes were the nicest looking notchbacks of that era IMO. Though the Grand Prix were very distinctive and sharp. The Monte Carlos were pretty cool too.
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Originally Posted by Hurst/Olds 73/74
x2 especially the actual pace car #1 barn find!!!

...and, by the way, I prefer the Supreme body style and think the '70 Cutlass/442 convertible is one of the most beautiful convertible bodies of any make/model/year muscle car. I personally never appreciated the "eyebrow" line on the '70-'72 Cutlass S/442 quarter panel.
Yes i know what you mean about those "eyebrow" on the quarter panel. I got one myself and its a little difficult driving around in NYC because those "eyebrow" sticks out a couple of inches and going through a lot of double park cars can make your hair behind your neck stick out.
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
X2!!! This is why I've always preferred the 68-69 Holiday coupes (and VCs) to the 70-72 cars. I do agree that the 70-72 convertibles look better than the prior years, however.

wow I thought I was the only one who couldn't get past that line far as 70-72 HC'S.
Joe isn't there only a handful of 72 Hurst converts w X in the vin as well?
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I think that we can throw in the 1 ? '68 H/O 4speed, that was supposedly built for Demmers son. (Anyone shed some light on that?)
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Originally Posted by 1969w3155
I think that we can throw in the 1 ? '68 H/O 4speed, that was supposedly built for Demmers son. (Anyone shed some light on that?)

I have heard the same
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Originally Posted by 1969w3155
I think that we can throw in the 1 ? '68 H/O 4speed, that was supposedly built for Demmers son. (Anyone shed some light on that?)

Octania has a pic of it from a show that it was in a couple years ago. It's the real deal and Demmer's son still owns it
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