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Old September 1st, 2014, 11:49 AM
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I could not see how this Ram Rod did not sell the first day or two on CO. I would have loved to snap that thing up. It just wasn't in the budget. I was thinking Dean would pull it, then in the spring i could jump on it .
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Originally Posted by joesw31
Dean, just had a chance to look at your thread. Nice survivor car, and I am sure it found a nice home. There is another 68 ramrod in my area that my be for sale. However, the car has no paper work. Its a 3 speed car with 3.91 non-posi rear.

Any way tell us about your 69....
wow let me know unusual drive train combo

69 Gold on Gold everything there although no paperwork
Pass fender stills has chalk marking
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If I didn't have this car that Ram Rod wasn't going anywhere lol
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Originally Posted by Dave Siltman
Yea, what Joe said. PLEASE do tell us all about your '69. And Stefano, what are your plans for the '68. I wish I'd have known about that '68 earlier, I could've been a player on that one. I can see that car done; Black and Red is one good-looking combination. I know this sounds weird and may surprise some of you, but I actually like '68s better than '69s, and I own a '69!

I bought that car on the color combo. I love the 68s but like the 69s better in appearance . Love the race history and representation of the 68 Ram Rods better though.
Hey how many could say they had a 68 and a 69 besides John Ebbs at one time
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Originally Posted by firefrost gold
I could not see how this Ram Rod did not sell the first day or two on CO. I would have loved to snap that thing up. It just wasn't in the budget. I was thinking Dean would pull it, then in the spring i could jump on it .
It almost did get pulled permanently but the wife saw the dollar signs lol
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I, for one seriously thought of dipping into my 401k for that one.
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I thought about maybe sacrificing my '70 w-31 for it! Stickw31 would have been pissed though. ; ). When you said you had second thoughts about selling it I took a wait and see approach and missed it, although I had funds lined up just in case. Oh well! It has a good home. I probably would have done nothing to it except install correct seat covers and drive it.

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Originally Posted by Dave Siltman
So Stefano, what are the plans..........full tilt-body off? Sure sounds like a candidate for a restoration and possible give-away at MCACN!?! Or maybe a nostalgia race car?
Inquiring minds want to know.
I just got it back home, so I will need to evaluate it and decide what is next.
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Originally Posted by vette442
I thought about maybe sacrificing my '70 w-31 for it! Stickw31 would have been pissed though. ; ). When you said you had second thoughts about selling it I took a wait and see approach and missed it, although I had funds lined up just in case. Oh well! It has a good home. I probably would have done nothing to it except install correct seat covers and drive it.

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serious second thoughts - almost didn't happen second thoughts but it was time
that was one of the factors of selling in that I could not restore I just loved the originality
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Originally Posted by joesw31
How about some more pictures of your '69? We would all like to see them!.
sure will get some more
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Old September 1st, 2014, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Stefano
I just got it back home, so I will need to evaluate it and decide what is next.
And then whats next is it needs to come to Colorado and be parked next to the '69
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Wow! So THAT'S what my interior should look like! Minus the 4 speed of course, but man I wish mine had a 4 speed. What color is the exterior looks like it could be Aztec Gold? Anyway beautiful car I'll keep it in mind if I need pictures for my interior refresh.
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Very cool Dean. Boy, that hood shot looks familiar! Nothing like Aztec Gold with white stripes!
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Originally Posted by joesw31
Steve, wouldn't be upset... As long as you offered it back to him...

Never ever would be pissed Terry, i would have found a way to but back with your help. you should have called, we could have worked something out. Next time
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Originally Posted by jon69olds
Wow! So THAT'S what my interior should look like! Minus the 4 speed of course, but man I wish mine had a 4 speed. What color is the exterior looks like it could be Aztec Gold? Anyway beautiful car I'll keep it in mind if I need pictures for my interior refresh.

ty , yes Aztec Gold
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Originally Posted by Dave Siltman
Very cool Dean. Boy, that hood shot looks familiar! Nothing like Aztec Gold with white stripes!

I know huh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Super Kool W-31. Why don't you start a new thread on it. BTW.....don't take this too harsh.....but your pictures suck. Get the car out side and take a few 100 digitals.
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Originally Posted by larry442w30
And then whats next is it needs to come to Colorado and be parked next to the '69
I have allready filed Anti-Trust litigation againt you for having too many W-Machines and you still want more?
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Originally Posted by Stefano
Super Kool W-31. Why don't you start a new thread on it. BTW.....don't take this too harsh.....but your pictures suck. Get the car out side and take a few 100 digitals.

no I wont start a thread im kinda quiet and reserved in that regard I know what it is. The pics do suck just wanted to respond to the requests.
ty for the compliment re the car.
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Originally Posted by Stefano
I have allready filed Anti-Trust litigation againt you for having too many W-Machines and you still want more?
more is better...more is better...more is better...
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Who can explain the Engine pad stamp?

Looks like the original trans and rear are in place.

The car is very dry and solid. The frame has no pits and all the frame bushings are in great shape. No damage on the underside.

Thanks again Dean, for a very nice Ram Rod.
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yes it was advertised as such w the original tranny and rear
the stamp from what I have gathered 721 - the extra blocks
the 6 before that good question.

well w only 60000 original miles suspecting that the undercarriage would be more than presentable
you are welcome
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What about the other letters?
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on my w-30 replacement block there is also letters
from what I understand and have seen thus far all replacement blocks have some letters.
Honestly I wish I knew what they meant or stood for
Hopefully someone else on here may know
Sorry hope that helps
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Originally Posted by Stefano
Who can explain the Engine pad stamp?

Looks like the original trans and rear are in place.

The car is very dry and solid. The frame has no pits and all the frame bushings are in great shape. No damage on the underside.

Thanks again Dean, for a very nice Ram Rod.
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yes it was advertised as such w the original tranny and rear
the stamp from what I have gathered 721 - the extra blocks
the 6 before that good question.

well w only 60000 original miles suspecting that the undercarriage would be more than presentable
you are welcome
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on my w-30 replacement block there is also letters
from what I understand and have seen thus far all replacement blocks have some letters.
Honestly I wish I knew what they meant or stood for
Hopefully someone else on here may know
Sorry hope that helps
I don't know if is applicable here or not, but more often than not, a re-builder (dealership or other) stamps some id on the engine. A signature of sorts to be able to verify later that it was indeed rebuilt by them. Sometimes initials sometimes insignificant letters/number. And the stamping were usually done where the engine id was.
And replacement block were considered rebuilt in this sense.
Not universal, but more than common.
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[QUOTE=Stefano;740103]Who can explain the Engine pad stamp?

Looks like the original trans and rear are in place.

The car is very dry and solid. The frame has no pits and all the frame bushings are in great shape. No damage on the underside.

Thanks again Dean, for a very nice Ram Rod.[/Q


Is it possible that the numbers stand for some sort of date code that the block was replaced? I have a 70 w-31 with a replacement block with numbers 6776. I was told that meant 06/07/1976???

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Originally Posted by dnmfranco
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Originally Posted by wmachine
I don't know if is applicable here or not, but more often than not, a re-builder (dealership or other) stamps some id on the engine. A signature of sorts to be able to verify later that it was indeed rebuilt by them. Sometimes initials sometimes insignificant letters/number. And the stamping were usually done where the engine id was.
And replacement block were considered rebuilt in this sense.
Not universal, but more than common.

that makes sense far as the initials concerning verification
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[QUOTE=larry442w30;740141]
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Who can explain the Engine pad stamp?

Looks like the original trans and rear are in place.

The car is very dry and solid. The frame has no pits and all the frame bushings are in great shape. No damage on the underside.

Thanks again Dean, for a very nice Ram Rod.[/Q


Is it possible that the numbers stand for some sort of date code that the block was replaced? I have a 70 w-31 with a replacement block with numbers 6776. I was told that meant 06/07/1976???

that would make sense for your stamping, this one is a 6 space then 721. In 68 re these cars it is well documented that extra blocks were made that were numbered into the low to mid 700's for teams and dealerships.
These cars initially were just going to be raced no public sales until NHRA mandated 500. When that occurred extra blocks were casted for the first 50 cars sent to the tracks and subsequent made so dealerships would have some extra.
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Originally Posted by joesw31
Thanks for the pics! Car looks awesome! Has the engine been out of the car?

For the stamp pad, the number on there may be inventory control for Oldsmobile, or may be the last 4 numbers of the 'fitted block" part number. I don't have an engine assembly manual for 68, but I would start there.
Joe ty for the kind words yes sir far as engine being out
I going to guess here and say you have a w-31 maybe ............ oh yeah your handle lol. I am also going to guess 70?
Would like to see pics if not too much trouble
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What is the "R" date code on the rear?
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Stefano, my '69 W-31warranty replacement block has the same type "7something" as the block you just got from Dean. I'd have to look at the pad (be glad to) to document he exact codes. I know the whole story on my car, so I may be of some help to you. PM me and we can talk.
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Dave,

That would be great. With as few of these engines which are out there it would be good to document some of this History.

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Originally Posted by joesw31
The "R" is not a date code, but it stands for the right bearing cap. There will be a "R" stamped on the cap as well. The left side should have an "L" in the same area
oh good because I didn't know was hoping the knowledgeable elders would speak
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Bernhard ty

love your quote, we need more defenders for that G block let's recruit lol
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The rear doesn't appear to ever have been opened up or had the fluid changed so we changed out all the other drivetrain fluids.

The rear and gears are still in great shape. Acceptable lash and good patterns on the gears.
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Great thread...have learned a few things...sorry Dean to see such a neat car leave your possession...but I am excited to see it at MCAN in a few months...

My 69 W-31 replacement block is stamped 6 858 ....car was sold new at Berejik and according to the second owner, the block was replaced at Berejik ....still trying to verify this ....tried getting pics of the pad, but no luck so far with a lousy camera....
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Hi Tim so am I but life continues so they say
do you go that every year?
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i went last year and it was just spectacular....can't wait to see this years show...it should be on everyone's car show list...
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wow, okay ready for confession I don't do shows
went to one Nationals and two other small local shows since I have owned my cars
After seeing a couple cars I'm bored and cant sit still around my own car so I don't go
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