1970 cutlass w-31 original 4 spd
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1970 cutlass w-31 original 4 spd
Listing for a friend of mine here is a neat blast from the past. Car is legit documented 1970 W-31 optioned cutlass with factory 4 spd.
Below is the basic info on car I can get answers to your questions if I can't answer them off the top of my head. This car runs and drives but needs a restoration or some detailing and keep it as is?
1970 W31 located near Hamilton Ontario.
> Not original engine but comes with good running 350 olds rocket in car with original W31 aluminum intake
> Full Set of New TRW Correct Flat Top Replacement Pistons
> New Comp Cams Cam and Lifter set
> Factory exhaust manifolds and a pair of #6 casting heads (not original big valve heads but correct casting)
> No w31 carb
> Included is the original Thick W31 Balancer ($1000 value)
> Original Paint Burgundy Mist on White Bench Seat Interior
> Factory 4 gear car believe (trans is original #'s but will confirm)
> 4 core rad
> Original 3:91 posi rear end in car
> 66k miles believed to be original car was last plated on road back in 1982 in the state of Virginia
> Broadcast card found it is a legit w31 optioned car
> Originally sold new from West Virginia (Dealer emblem on trunk)
> Imported with all paperwork to Canada in around 2007
> Frame is solid and floors look good also, typical rust around window trim, dash, trunk lid lip, qtr lips and bottom of fenders etc
Price is $11,500 USD FIRM as is / as shown.
Pictures can be viewed at the following link:
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...=folder%2c.JPG
Below is the basic info on car I can get answers to your questions if I can't answer them off the top of my head. This car runs and drives but needs a restoration or some detailing and keep it as is?
1970 W31 located near Hamilton Ontario.
> Not original engine but comes with good running 350 olds rocket in car with original W31 aluminum intake
> Full Set of New TRW Correct Flat Top Replacement Pistons
> New Comp Cams Cam and Lifter set
> Factory exhaust manifolds and a pair of #6 casting heads (not original big valve heads but correct casting)
> No w31 carb
> Included is the original Thick W31 Balancer ($1000 value)
> Original Paint Burgundy Mist on White Bench Seat Interior
> Factory 4 gear car believe (trans is original #'s but will confirm)
> 4 core rad
> Original 3:91 posi rear end in car
> 66k miles believed to be original car was last plated on road back in 1982 in the state of Virginia
> Broadcast card found it is a legit w31 optioned car
> Originally sold new from West Virginia (Dealer emblem on trunk)
> Imported with all paperwork to Canada in around 2007
> Frame is solid and floors look good also, typical rust around window trim, dash, trunk lid lip, qtr lips and bottom of fenders etc
Price is $11,500 USD FIRM as is / as shown.
Pictures can be viewed at the following link:
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...=folder%2c.JPG
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I realize these cars are extremely rare - especially the 4 speeds. Only 1029 W31's built in 1970. I guess a buyer will have to evaluate several things: How much will it cost to restore as there are a LOT of rust issues evident, and what to pay without the original engine, beat up trim, missing parts etc. The heads have an 8 on them, so if the engine is a complete transplant it's a 73 350. Does your friend have the original block?
I looked for comparable 70 W31's and most of them in this shape were well south of your friends ask, but I wish him luck as these are a rare car. I used Joe P's Classic Car Price Tracker that shows the actual selling prices of cars that were offered for sale and bought! The firewall shows manual brakes, which is consistent with a 4 speed and 328° cam that was in the original engine for this car.
How long has it lived in Ontario?
I looked for comparable 70 W31's and most of them in this shape were well south of your friends ask, but I wish him luck as these are a rare car. I used Joe P's Classic Car Price Tracker that shows the actual selling prices of cars that were offered for sale and bought! The firewall shows manual brakes, which is consistent with a 4 speed and 328° cam that was in the original engine for this car.
How long has it lived in Ontario?
#5
I own a 1970 442 hardtop from this same dealer, C and O Motors, in Saint Albans, West Virginia - ironically burgundy mist and white as well. C and O Motors still uses the identical metal trunk emblem (with the Olds rocket) to this day on all their new cars.
#6
Hi Allan R, as noted in ad it was around 2007 that it was imported into Canada. He has basically done nothing with it except change the wheels from slotted aftermarket mags to the olds rallies and drive it a couple of times a year. No the original engine is gone, the intake stayed with car and he has a balancer from a w31 donor car that was parted out by one of our friends, This really is the way he got the car with the exception of the wheels being changed. Thanks Darryl
And Terry you are correct some asked about it, I finally got around to getting some pics and the info to post it here for him.
And Terry you are correct some asked about it, I finally got around to getting some pics and the info to post it here for him.
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Docs available
Hello all,
Just want to clarify the docs in the pics package were just some copied sheets and hand written just as a reference. The owner has the originals from car unmarked up with no hand writing etc. there is a proto plate from state of WEst Virginia with original owners name. There is a broadcast sheet with w31 option, 4 speed etc. there is one more doc also not sure what it is called from GM and then the original rad support w31 decal has been kept with the other paper work it is worn but all there.
Also the big balancer is included with purchase. The owner is looking for $11500 US firm but as always all serious cash offers would be considered.
Thx Darryl
Just want to clarify the docs in the pics package were just some copied sheets and hand written just as a reference. The owner has the originals from car unmarked up with no hand writing etc. there is a proto plate from state of WEst Virginia with original owners name. There is a broadcast sheet with w31 option, 4 speed etc. there is one more doc also not sure what it is called from GM and then the original rad support w31 decal has been kept with the other paper work it is worn but all there.
Also the big balancer is included with purchase. The owner is looking for $11500 US firm but as always all serious cash offers would be considered.
Thx Darryl
#11
Original Protect-o-Plate w-31 rad decal
I have originals of the protect-o-plate original to car, 2 original gm sheets broadcast card and another print out (I have pictures for serious buyers I can email you those) all from the car along with original w31 decal off rad support. Price will be changed to $10,950 USD Firm and it will be going on 442.com classifieds in the next few days. Thanks for the interest so far.
#12
I probably would have bought this if I didn't find my 70 442 in the fall - the prices were about the same, and they are both the same color, and the only color I wanted. Sometimes I wish my first 442 was blue or red, I would have found one in much nicer condition for less money - damn burgundy mist gets me everytime
#14
Considering how bad mine was - this looks like a piece of cake. I just finished putting in the new interior floor pans, have cut the trunk pan out, and will begin working on the cowl in a few weeks. The nice think is the frame, quarters, and roof on mine are all very solid
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Hi Steve,
Yes original Broadcast Card, Proto Plate and the orginal w31 rad decal have been put aside and one other document (pictured are just some bad copies kept in the car that were so light someone hand wrote over for referenece only. I have the originals you can PM for more details on that. As for 4 spd linkage I know shifter has been added long ago so they did some hacking around the floor area for this. I can try to get pictures underneath the trans for ya if interested.
Air Cleaner is missing along with carb. Big balancer IS INCLUDED not on the current motor but loose part included. I may have a lead on the original air cleaner (top section only) from another local guy which could be purchased or maybe worked out in a deal. Owner wants to sell the car but doesnt have to so he is looking for close to the asking price as possible but we are reasonable guys to deal with.
Yes original Broadcast Card, Proto Plate and the orginal w31 rad decal have been put aside and one other document (pictured are just some bad copies kept in the car that were so light someone hand wrote over for referenece only. I have the originals you can PM for more details on that. As for 4 spd linkage I know shifter has been added long ago so they did some hacking around the floor area for this. I can try to get pictures underneath the trans for ya if interested.
Air Cleaner is missing along with carb. Big balancer IS INCLUDED not on the current motor but loose part included. I may have a lead on the original air cleaner (top section only) from another local guy which could be purchased or maybe worked out in a deal. Owner wants to sell the car but doesnt have to so he is looking for close to the asking price as possible but we are reasonable guys to deal with.
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