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Old March 7th, 2014, 10:36 AM
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70 442 w30 4 speed vert "buy it now" 345K

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I wish it were buy now and pay later - like the next life
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Old March 7th, 2014, 10:55 AM
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The return of the 100ft hoist!

The car is knock-kneed.
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Old March 7th, 2014, 11:40 AM
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It was at MCACN '13
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And a starting bid of $200...

Seriously? Why waste everyone's time?
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Old March 7th, 2014, 12:38 PM
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I am going to bid $1000.00 just to say I did.
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I'll also point out that the picture of the VIN derivative on the block would have a lot more meaning if there was also a picture of the VIN to compare it to.
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Old March 7th, 2014, 12:47 PM
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I am going to bid $1000.00 just to say I did.
Why not bid $100,000 or $200,000. Quit lowballing!
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Old March 7th, 2014, 12:49 PM
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Wow, I never thought I'd see a car that was TWICE as nice as ...
Forget it, I can't even type the rest!
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I messaged him a tip that his first ad was running at no reserve. He didn't catch that at first. Now it does.
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I spent lots of time looking this car over at MCACN - it sure looked original to me. I took many photos documenting as much as I could - never did run into the owner though.

Crazy money for these things.
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Old March 10th, 2014, 06:23 PM
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Look at the current bid :O
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Old March 11th, 2014, 06:36 PM
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What's up with the "once upon a time... " story lol
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Old March 11th, 2014, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by billmerbach
Look at the current bid :O
currently $190,442.68
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Old March 12th, 2014, 04:03 AM
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That car is well known in the "W-30 Conv. 4-speed" group. It is original and unrestored. I've never seen it in person, but a few of my cronies (who know these car well) have and say it is a time warp. Not many (if any) this nice and still original. I live "original" cars, and always have, long before the current fad of un-touched cars. This is a "SWEETHEART"!!!!!!!!
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Old March 12th, 2014, 06:52 AM
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Wow!

That car is amazing. I don't know if you guys checked out the Dropbox link for more photos https://www.dropbox.com/sh/o051tr6knb5y1w7/cy1sU2Y6kf

Would you assume the exhaust system has been redone? At least the tail pipes? I see the trumpet tips seem to extend too far out.. Just curious....Dream Car for sure...jealous.

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Old March 12th, 2014, 07:38 AM
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It's a nice example of an original car. There is no question the exhaust has been changed. I'm a lot older than most guys here, I was drag racing when these cars were new. The tailpipes are definitely out too far. The original tips were shorter and welded to the pipe. When you put the tail pipes on, they had to fall in a certain place, +- an inch or 2 that they were pushed in the muffler. I think the head pipes were flat where the crossmember is. You know...you look at a car like this, it's great...but things HAVE been changed. You can't look and say...wow, my trumpets should stick out a foot more than they do now. There are other small things...the red cap on the alt...never seen that on any Olds, it's a Pontiac thing. It's crazy bucks for the car, at least in my opinion. I would have to look again, but I think the alts been changed, too.
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Old March 12th, 2014, 09:55 AM
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I don't think anyone is making a claim that nothing has been changed or altered, ever on this W-30.

The point is that it is one of the most original and unrestored W-30, 4 speed convertibles in existence.

You can nit pic it all you want and that is Ok for points of discussion.......but it still is "one of the most original and unrestored W-30, 4 speed convertibles in existence."

The current owner, who collects special Top Tier muscle cars doesn't really care to change anything to please anyone other than himself.

We invited this car as well as many of his other cars to MCACN and he did not care to have them judged. We are very appreciative that he chose to display them for all to see.
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I like seeing all the over-spary under the car - never realized how much was there - was that normal or is it because the red just stands out so much more.
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Originally Posted by Tom442
That car is amazing. I don't know if you guys checked out the Dropbox link for more photos https://www.dropbox.com/sh/o051tr6knb5y1w7/cy1sU2Y6kf

Would you assume the exhaust system has been redone? At least the tail pipes? I see the trumpet tips seem to extend too far out.. Just curious....Dream Car for sure...jealous.

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Tom, thanks so much for the additional pics. Got some important details cleared up for me so as to get my W-30 resto right.
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Old March 16th, 2014, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
I'll also point out that the picture of the VIN derivative on the block would have a lot more meaning if there was also a picture of the VIN to compare it to.
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ywg396; Joe means the vin at the base of the windshield, or with the paper documents.
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Old March 16th, 2014, 11:21 AM
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girls dont u love the fake bids and hitting the reserve too lmao and why did the black one only have 4 offers and red one have 30 plus bids thats very very suspicious !!!!= fake bids
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Old March 17th, 2014, 02:22 AM
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Those are legit bids as I bid what I was willing to pay for Red Rag top. Both those cars are going to sell and will look like bargains in a very short time as you can count the real ones on two hands.
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yeah ok lmao
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Old March 17th, 2014, 06:23 AM
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They are bargains? They will go up in value? You can't be serious. You know...I own 3 nice musclecars, I'm age 60. I know a lot of guys who own really nice cars, most are my age or older. in 10-15 years, I'll be tired of my cars, and so will my friends. Mark my words, in 10-15 years there will be a LOT of REALLY nice cars on the market. You can see that happening now. Like those 2 cars...no...maybe not, they are unique. But personally...I would be REALLY embarrassed to take the red one to a show or cruise. Nifty story and mileage, but I would be embarrassed to tell people what I paid for it.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by mrolds69
They are bargains? They will go up in value? You can't be serious. You know...I own 3 nice musclecars, I'm age 60. I know a lot of guys who own really nice cars, most are my age or older. in 10-15 years, I'll be tired of my cars, and so will my friends. Mark my words, in 10-15 years there will be a LOT of REALLY nice cars on the market. You can see that happening now. Like those 2 cars...no...maybe not, they are unique. But personally...I would be REALLY embarrassed to take the red one to a show or cruise. Nifty story and mileage, but I would be embarrassed to tell people what I paid for it.
Thank you. I'm glad somebody said it. The stratospheric prices benefit nobody but the seller and hurt the rest of the enthusiasts. It is about time "we" quit being mesmerized by those out there drumming up the ridiculous prices and start understanding the damage it does.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 07:04 AM
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I for one would not be embarrassed to drive this car to a show, though I agree it is ridiculous how much value people put on these cars. Makes me want to sell both of mine. I also suspect the values will go down in a decade or two (which really means I should sell my cars now) but then we will see the 90s and 2000s cars going up in price.

Its interesting how the un-restored hardtop I have gets more attention than the mint convertible at shows lately - I assume its because people see it and feel like maybe they can find one like that or can afford it. Where the convertible, for those that know what it is, is perceived as unobtainable - though I have had it for a couple of decades now and paid very little for it (thus the difficulty in parting with it)
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Originally Posted by wmachine
Thank you. I'm glad somebody said it. The stratospheric prices benefit nobody but the seller and hurt the rest of the enthusiasts. It is about time "we" quit being mesmerized by those out there drumming up the ridiculous prices and start understanding the damage it does.
Yes, thank you...
My first house cost me 32000....cool car, neat history but crazy price.
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SOLD FOR 341k
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after looking at the dropbox pictures, can't see it... 341K
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well ebay did well too i think 10% of sell but im not sure =34,100.00 lol
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Old March 17th, 2014, 10:32 AM
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Now come on all u hand full of people with w30 convertibles sell sell selll lmao and hope i does well maybe ,maybe fella was blind lmao
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Originally Posted by oldsuniversew30
well ebay did well too i think 10% of sell but im not sure =34,100.00 lol

EBay doesn't get 10% - it's more like $125 + a fee based on the reserve (from the seller) & nothing from the buyer
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The big money seems to go with the 70-442 verts that have doc's

I wonder how many here that own 70-442 W30 verts have the "moneyball" doc's that drive these over the top price points?
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