1970 Cutlass W-31
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1970 Cutlass W-31
Re-creation started with a very clean and original 1970 Cultass S. The car retains all of its original drivetrain with stock Rocket 350 2V, TH350 transmission and open 12 bolt rear end. As for the appearance, everything was done to make this Cutlass S look the part of the MIGHTY W-31. Refinished in it's original Aspen green paint with painted black W Stripes, aftermarket OAI hood with steel frame, W-27 rear end cover and W-35 rear spoiler. All trim is in very good condition and NOS 1970 grilles were also installed. The dark green bench seat interior is all original with the exception of the front benchseat covers and headliner. All emblems and as well as rubber seals have also been replaced. To finish the look of the original W-31, color coded steel wheels, dog dish caps and Firestone Wide Oval tires were installed. You can drive this car anywhere with no worries. I'm sure I'm forgetting something, so feel free to contact me with any questions thay you may have. The car is located in NKY near Cincinnati, OH just minutes from the Airport. Asking $18,500.
Last edited by 1carsick; February 25th, 2013 at 11:36 AM. Reason: Confirming the car as a re-creation.
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Just an Olds Guy
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It's a stunningly beautiful car. Wish you good luck with the sale!
Might have been a good idea to list it as a W31 'Re-creation' though because you know folks will jump all over it being not original. Since it retains it's stock 2bbl, it will obviously not have the coveted Oldsmobile W-350 intake.
By any chance did you go with the Thornton Hood, or the ones from Parts Place/Tamraz?
IMO, you're asking a fair price for a very nice turn key car!
Might have been a good idea to list it as a W31 'Re-creation' though because you know folks will jump all over it being not original. Since it retains it's stock 2bbl, it will obviously not have the coveted Oldsmobile W-350 intake.
By any chance did you go with the Thornton Hood, or the ones from Parts Place/Tamraz?
IMO, you're asking a fair price for a very nice turn key car!
#6
Thanks Joffroi! It is a really good driver that's reliable, looks good and you don't have to worry about damaging an original. I thought about added some performance upgrades, but I like the way it is set up now. The new owner can add the extras if wanted.
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I am big into 1970 W-31's. This is the 4th one I have owned. This is the most original one i have owned. Have worked on and restored many W-31's also. Got my first one in 1993, been enjoying them ever since. Really appreciate and Love the W-31's
#14
Wow does the oai add that much more to make it primal? If so, I may need to add it onto my 455. Or is it that feature combined with the guts as well - valves etc?
Last edited by TenMidgets; February 28th, 2013 at 01:30 PM.
#15
I never felt OAI impacted that much, certainly not for stoplight drags. Others here can certainly answer more accurately, but the rotating mass of the SBO V BBO is less so it can spool up quicker. Of course a lighter car, The W31 had no sound deadening, and was more bare or utilitarian. I later pulled the OE engine and built a 455 for it And the cars drive ability changed, a lot.
#20
Sampson,
A lot of prep to work the glass prior to painting. The lip at rear of the hood where to trim is mounted, stands almost straight up. I've noticed this on others. After my bodyman worked it over, it fits and looks pretty good. Had some minor damage during shipping. I would not buy from The Parts Place if you have an alternate source. Good Luck.
A lot of prep to work the glass prior to painting. The lip at rear of the hood where to trim is mounted, stands almost straight up. I've noticed this on others. After my bodyman worked it over, it fits and looks pretty good. Had some minor damage during shipping. I would not buy from The Parts Place if you have an alternate source. Good Luck.
#25
wow, what a beauty. That car is one fine Oldsmobile! I never knew much about the W-31 cars, but how would one know when looking at a W-31 car vs. a Cutlass S that a W-31 is a factory car or a clone? I have seen a car here locally that I wondered if it was a W-31 or not...
I know one can always look under the hood but should one study the VIN and any other telling features like the W31 markings on the fenders?
I know one can always look under the hood but should one study the VIN and any other telling features like the W31 markings on the fenders?
Last edited by rocketman77; March 11th, 2013 at 10:06 AM. Reason: added a statement about the W31 trim markings
#26
Rocketman77, the drivetrain and documentation if available is the best way to identify a real W-31. StickW31 and others on this forum would have more knowledge about these amazing cars. Thanks for your comments.
#27
Rocketman77, to respond to your questioning W-31s---They can be "faked". It seems when someone "Clones" one, they are a bit more honest than someone who may use different terminology. The hard-to-find items, such as the balancer (which has been reproduced in a limited quantity, but I haven't seen), the correct carb., and the ORIGINAL heads (I say original because externally they look the same) are out there. These items command a stiff price and USUALLY aren't on a clone---they MAY be on a FAKE---you see what I'm getting at here? The tell-tale signs are kinda hard to explain without having a REAL one next to an imposter---even then if the person building the car knew everything to do, only an original window sticker or some bullet-proof documentation would suffice. The W-31s were only built in Lansing, and Lansing build sheets are virtually non-existent.
Check out the '69 that is offered on eBay now to look at a REAL '69. That car is extremely well documented and the W-31 specific parts are present. 1970s are a different ball game---intake, ram-air, hood, wing, stripes, etc. StickW31 (Steve) knows these cars as well as anybody and he is the go-to guy. I hope this helps you and by no means did I try to hijack the thread here. By the way, the car for sale here looks great and I wish the seller good luck with the sale.
Check out the '69 that is offered on eBay now to look at a REAL '69. That car is extremely well documented and the W-31 specific parts are present. 1970s are a different ball game---intake, ram-air, hood, wing, stripes, etc. StickW31 (Steve) knows these cars as well as anybody and he is the go-to guy. I hope this helps you and by no means did I try to hijack the thread here. By the way, the car for sale here looks great and I wish the seller good luck with the sale.
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Rocketman77, to respond to your questioning W-31s---They can be "faked". It seems when someone "Clones" one, they are a bit more honest than someone who may use different terminology. The hard-to-find items, such as the balancer (which has been reproduced in a limited quantity, but I haven't seen), the correct carb., and the ORIGINAL heads (I say original because externally they look the same) are out there. These items command a stiff price and USUALLY aren't on a clone---they MAY be on a FAKE---you see what I'm getting at here? The tell-tale signs are kinda hard to explain without having a REAL one next to an imposter---even then if the person building the car knew everything to do, only an original window sticker or some bullet-proof documentation would suffice. The W-31s were only built in Lansing, and Lansing build sheets are virtually non-existent.
Check out the '69 that is offered on eBay now to look at a REAL '69. That car is extremely well documented and the W-31 specific parts are present. 1970s are a different ball game---intake, ram-air, hood, wing, stripes, etc. StickW31 (Steve) knows these cars as well as anybody and he is the go-to guy. I hope this helps you and by no means did I try to hijack the thread here. By the way, the car for sale here looks great and I wish the seller good luck with the sale.
Check out the '69 that is offered on eBay now to look at a REAL '69. That car is extremely well documented and the W-31 specific parts are present. 1970s are a different ball game---intake, ram-air, hood, wing, stripes, etc. StickW31 (Steve) knows these cars as well as anybody and he is the go-to guy. I hope this helps you and by no means did I try to hijack the thread here. By the way, the car for sale here looks great and I wish the seller good luck with the sale.
#35
Auction
I really thought it was going to sell on Ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/W-31-...ht_1109wt_1021
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/W-31-...ht_1109wt_1021
#36
I actually lowered my reserve so that it would sell and the deadbeat backed out hours after make his bid. I don't normally put large items on ebay because of this, but I thought I'd give it a try.
Took it to a show in Cincinnati Sunday for a couple hours and it drew a large crowd. Many locals had seen it on craigslist, but the first time seeing in person. Real positive viewing. It will sell this Spring.
Thanks,
Took it to a show in Cincinnati Sunday for a couple hours and it drew a large crowd. Many locals had seen it on craigslist, but the first time seeing in person. Real positive viewing. It will sell this Spring.
Thanks,
#38
Thanks Shatrab. Although it's not perfect, I did get a lot complements on the color and good of a job the painter did spraying the car. I was told this is a very difficult color to paint.
#40
I'm currently trying to recoupe my ebay fees. If I can get those back, I may relist later. I've purchasde a slot in an upcoming carshow/swapmeet in Springfield, OH and I'll try my luck there. I've sold cars to dealers at this show in the past, so hoping for something positive. My Camaro is ready to come home from the painter and I don't have space. Bad situation.
Thanks,
Thanks,