ent72olds

I am a purist at heart also, but if someone doesn't see the beauty in this car, that's fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but the guy just posted his car for sale....and did provide pretty nice pics! Now, if someone were really interested, they would have to have a baseline in mind as to what they can afford. By looking at what we can see here, we should be smart enough to figure a reasonable price....now, what is reasonable is in what someone who is truly interested, would spend! I for one have seen so many cars at BJ go for way more than I would ever think to pay for it! But, to the guy who bought it, they felt it was possibly worth it! Good luck selling it, and thanks for offering it up to us Oldsmobile people first! Oh, and thanks for at least keeping an Olds motor in it....... of course, I will make one opinion........it would look much better IMO if the headlight bezels were correctly painted....just saying.....

455monster

ahhhhhh how sweet now you wanna get me to relax. we were just teasing you awwww don't get so worked up lol really SMH Diego

455monster

thank you for your kind words and opinions like that are totally welcomed. I know what you mean when u say people wanting this car damn straight know a baseline lol. as far as headlight bezels I'm torn between the 2 but I personally do like these aluminum ones better however I have both but ya I hear you it looks tough flat black also

droptopron

Its a very nice car. I like that its resto-modded but the interior is more or less a stock restoration. Always curious how cars that are supposed to have head rests end up w/out them. Good luck with the sale.

455monster

thank you. I do have brand new headrest however I have to cut two holes at the top of each seat and screw hardware in then headrests can slide in. the last 10% off the project takes 90% of the time my goal for this project was simple see I'm 29 and I hate when I see youngsters customize oldsmobiles and put swade interior, crazy colors, chevy engines, lift kits, 24 inch rims etc etc just my opinion. I don't like heavily changed cars like shaved doors lamb doors etc I wanted performance look but originality and character. I could have put a way more powerful chevy engine at half the cost I chose not too out of respect for olds and olds enthusiest. interior I kept the original look but bumped it up to full leather. didnt modify the dash at all for stereo stuff there is no right or wrong IMO just what came from my heart and the love I have for olds. I am proud to say I have owned a lot of classics and olds is my favorite.

stevengerard

I was wondering how long it would take for this to blow up a bit. I see both sides of the fence, you simply listed a car for sale and ask for offers, that's fine, though many will say this ain't ebay this is an Oldsmobile enthusiast forum. Sure its a nice car but look, many of us are very much into our cars, and many more have put a TON of money and/or effort into their cars - doesn't mean they are worth any more than anyone else's car. I feel this is a tight community too, so when someone starts saying "1 of a kind" and "perfect" folks here will naturally "educate" the members on what is what. I like that about this site and have come to expect it. I refrained from making comments myself as it is so modified it is hard to put a value on it as well as it not being my cup o tea.

As for getting as much as possible to help the Oldsmobile community I feel that is what has ruined the car hobby - greed and the uneducated buyer.

455monster

IMO the car is one of a kind I actually think its a fact. If I really wanted a car like a modified classic car i would take everything I know about the car and make the buyer a offer if he declines then at least I have opened the door to a negotiation. I also always CALL and talk to the owner of a car I'm interested in. I don't think it's educating I think it's harassing personally. I personally would never post another car for sale on this forum due to the negativity and harassment. This car is nice period. It might not be for everyone's taste but nothing is. This car was for sale, meaning if you like it contact seller if interested. People making rude remarks thinking its funny or thinking theyre gonna get stroked by other members is not cool. This car gets crazy attention I've taken 5 of 5 trophies best of show best paint nicest custom etc etc yet people wanna drop there 2 cents oh he's sneaky sales person cause he said 1 of a kind pshh. I feel bad for this forum and actual nice people that will miss out on future cars because they ran people away anyways it is what it is this car will sell and soon you guys will be ripping on someone else. People these days are quick to point out the bad try pointing out the good

Cheers

Nickyloves442s

Love the car.

Nickyloves442s

The modern world as we know it is full of forums for almost anything of human interest under the sun. Because of the nature of participating in the world wide web, and its lack of personification, its a melting pod for weird behavior and irrational remarks. Anyone can join a forum and there is no direct action in relevance to anyones remarks, just words on a computer monitor.
When I joined this site I thought it would be.a little different than what it is. If things are posted for sale, it seems like a lot of people are trying to shoot down the value of the item for sale.Prime examle was the post about the Rallye 350.
People list things for sale on this site because they figure since this is an Olds site, we would appreciate the Olds stuff on here.
Everybody is entitled to their own oppinion, and we love America because of freedom of speach, but I feel this site lacks unity, especially in the for sale forum.
I think we should all be proud of Anything Oldsmobile, and if some of us price something a little too high and it doesn't sell, I think we get the hint, we just love our Olds stuff a little more. We dont need a market analysis from the next self proclaimed Olds value specialist internet cowboy.
Things like D heads or W30 intakes are controversial issues when they are for sale. People always try to shoot down their value, but if the tables were turned and these same parts were owned by these people they would be woth a fortune.
Just saying......

Dave Siltman

For a while now I sat back and watched this thread escalate---I guess it is time for my take on the whole thing...... Just because Monster455 built a car the way HE likes it, why do others try to pick on his car. It is a one-of-a-kind------in theory most of our cars are----to an extent. Rarely are any two cars EXACTLY ALIKE.
I would have to say that given the amount of time, thought, planning, and yes!, last of all money, he has a car HE likes. So what if people here don't like the presentation or manner in which he chooses to offer it for sale. Aren't we all supposed to be friends here? I'm sure some of the members won't like some of the stuff I'm doing to my '72 442 Frame-Off---maybe I don't like some of their cars---I'm not going to ridicule a fellow Oldsmobile enthusiast just because he/she deviates from showroom appearance or drivetrain.
I say if Monster455 wants to take offers---good for him---I'm not interested in the car, but I can see the effort that went into it's construction. I personally love most all kinds of cars, especially Oldsmobiles from the '60s and '70s, but I have some VERY good friends that wouldn't own one. Do I not like them for it? Of course not, so in the interest of fair play, let's give Monster 455 some credit for his car and wish him good luck on his Lambo.
Happy New Year to all, I gotta gotta go to work.

stevengerard

Yep, this is the biggest frustration, I think too often the "education" or lets say the intent of "clarification" ends up coming off as harassment, arrogance or ignorance and that's a shame. You, like many are someone who enjoys the same brand of car as we do, you just enjoy a different flavor than most can either afford or spend the time doing. In the end you should feel welcomed and appreciated for what you feel is a great car.

MDchanic

Okay, here's my take on this, and then I'm done, as I am not interested in buying a car right now, nor would I be interested in this one (which looks like a nice car, by the way) if I were in the market:

As internet fora go, this is a pretty conservative and low-key forum. It seems to have a fairly high proportion of older guys, and they tend to be fairly quiet types (most of them, anyway... ). Although several are doing quite well, nobody on here appears to be, or acts as though they are "rich," and we also have a decent number of folks who don't have two nickels to rub together. To a surprising extent, our members are honest to a flaw when selling parts or cars, and will generally "downplay" their sales, describing them as worse than they are, so as to be sure not to mislead.

That being said, coming on here with expressions like "1 of a kind" and "perfect," and then refusing to set a price, even though you say you want to sell the car, seems "slick," and will inevitably provoke a negative reaction. Saying you want to parlay it into a Lamborghini is just icing on the cake.

Nothing against either you or the car, but the way in which it was first presented set the tone, on a fairly conservative forum, and after that it was just open season.

- Eric

costpenn

Here, here.....

joe_padavano

I've stayed out of this as well, but I have to agree with Eric. Personalized cars like this are polarizing and are much harder to sell than a stock restoration. I can appreciate the workmanship even if I don't care for the final product (especially the oversize wheels). Good luck selling it, but obviously setting a starting price will prevent wasting your and potential buyers' time. Lacking a price, the statement "over 100K spent..." tells most people where you think the price is.

And again, while this is obviously a well-built car, I can't understand the need to call it a "restoration" when it clearly isn't. There's been a lot of money and manpower expended on modifying it, so why even use the "R" word? To me this type of advertising smacks of being misleading and normally makes me look for other bogus things on the car. I don't believe that is the case here, but again, I think you're hurting your own marketing by calling it a restoration. In any case, good luck with the sale.

Jimmy_B

Very well said Eric !

It rubbed me the wrong way too and I'm about as level headed as they come. I still can't get over the "NFL players" comment. This statement seems over the top to me as well. To me NFL players are not typical buyers like you might find on this forum. Instead, I would classify them as uneducated buyers with LOTS of money to throw around. They are the type who wouldn't necessarily need to see a list price when shopping. Since most people here don't play in the NFL or have Millions of dollars, the sales pitch doesn't fit the audience.

I'm a Real Estate Appraiser in the real world and we have a term called "Over-Improved" or "Super Adequacy". Basically, both refer to the market not paying for the additional value contributed by the owner. I would say we have a strong candidate here.

Good luck on your sale. This place can be brutal at times, but I have come to realize most people on this site are good, honest, helpful people with BIG opinions.

sicky olds

TECHNICALLY is not every car one of a kind? every car has its own VIN, serial number, mileage, etc. I like the looks on this car myself, hopefully you find the right owner.

Also, It may have "big a$$ rims" but at least he tucked them correctly and did not lift the whole car off the ground.

oldcutlass

Probably get flamed for this! It's another pissing contest post, go figure. Ok, you all go to your rooms and don't come out until you can play well with others. Geez, it's a resto - modified car for sale, get over yourselves, move on nothing more to see here.

eds

I was thinking this very same thing. Sure you might think I drove in to work this a.m. in a run-of-the-mill Toyota Matrix. But I have yet to see another one with the exact same dent over the right front wheel, and the sand and dog hair in the front seats from my last visit to the beach!

sicky olds

Just trying to lighten the mood with everyone here

GreekDog

For what its worth I saw your car on ebay a few weeks ago and I love it. It looks stunning and I would love to have that in my collection. I can't afford it but I would love to do a resto-mod kinda car like that one day.

Some people here are hardcore purists who think that no one else can have a different opinion than theirs and critisize anyone for doing anything other than what they deem correct.

Other people nitpick everything from the color you paint your car to the grammar in your post.

I believe both of those groups of people to be *** wipes lol

Jamesbo

I think it needs Lambo doors.

sicky olds

Now you are just trolling James, you know that even if it was restored the way you wanted it, you would not be interested in it lol. Its not a 69 .

Jamesbo

Sicky, You're right. Wrong year for me. But, If ya want a Lambo like the Op said and ya got mega bucks tied up in an Olds, why not go one step further [or is it farther?] He's almost there anyway.

MaxDog

The Real Olds Power website has a stated rule that nitpicking and criticism in the "for sale" section has to be done in PMs. Given some of the posts above, it seems like a good rule.

11971four4two

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...e-section.html




Guidelines for the For Sale section: When you post something for sale please include your location and your requesting price. Also include pertainent data like shipping/delivery options.
Example,

1970 big block C heads, original, not modified. $200 obo. Fairbanks Alaska. $15.00 shipping anywhere in lower 48 states. Call me at 123-456-7890. My wife will answer, ask for Hugo Montenegro.


Lambo doors needed indeed

LOL

mike's88

WRONG, nitpicking and criticism is a prerequisite for every topic on ROP.

dewcrazzy

I know better than to ever sell my car on this forum. i've had my share of purist that know it all picking my car and other people's cars apart on other threads I've read. really don't understand WHY.....

455monster

amen! just because I like lambos and have a high dollar car I'm made out to be slick aka a weez. seriously?? I'm from Northern California sfbay we like extravagant and I can afford it because I worked my *** off and earned it. I can go on all your pages with beat up Oldsmobiles unfinished restorations and talk ish about it all day but I don't. it's funny how all these guys talking ish haven't once mentioned hey this guy is willing to let it go for a fair price yet I've mentioned it over and over and over.

455monster

Amen! thx partner

455monster

thank you. getting 315's to tuck like that with no rubbing, frame modifying, and mini tubbing was quite a challenge but I'm glad I was able to do it with precise measurements and 3 piece wheels. you guys would be shocked if I showed u how close the caliper is to the rim paper can barley fit looks awesome. how can you not appreciate that.

MaxDog

From the ROP website "for sale" section. The first post is a sticky from one of the moderators dated December 26, 2008:

"No more bickering and bashing in forsale if you must disagree with the seller go to a private media. Keep post and replies to a for sale or buy nature. We need to get this in check."

This is a good rule.

This poor guy is getting beat-up for the simple act of trying to sell a really nice car. Wow.

MDchanic

Au contraire.

He's getting beat up for using hyperbolic language in the act if trying to sell a really nice car.

I doubt that this ugly michegas would be occurring if he'd used a more reserved tone.

Still, nice car, though not my cup of tea.

- Eric

455monster

why would I set such an average tone or set of words to such a magnificent car? would you wear a custom tailored suit with gym socks? come on. now you guys are attacking my choice of words lol. look from what I've gathered most of you guys wouldn't spend 6k on custom one off 3 piece wheels(they will bash my wording on that lol) but guess what I would, I did so be it everyone is different. if its not your cup of coffee appreciate the car for what it is and the fact that I'm letting it go for a reasonable offer PERIOD

Ranzan

all i gotta say is BITCHIN car !!!!!!

455monster

thank you

455monster

this would have happened regardless of tone!

455monster

thank you

Octania

Off your meds for Richard's Affliction, I see...

I must have missed the part about the photos being from the unfinished stage.

I thought you had said ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS on paint alone... didn't pay that much attention I guess...

That would be money poorly spent, no matter how rich you are. $100k on the entire project seems less absurd.

As for the radiator.... some of us regular folks have not seen voodoo like back-n-forth flow units... to me, that falls under the category of "yeah, fascinating, but WHY?" And, if we are going to go there... why not just make it a THREE-path back-n-forth radiator, so that the radiator entry ends up where it should be. Smacks of poorly executed idea with the only perceivable benefit the oddity factor- the only kid on the block to have one- a recurrent theme here.

It's the Most Awesome Vehicle Ever, I can't believe you let us gaze upon its image.

z11375ss

Not my cup of tea. I don't think you will get much action on this site for that car. I just sold a 65 Caddy Convert through a car broker in Chicago. He got me 35% more than I had offered it to two people. Get a broker involved and give him his ten percent. Wash your hands of it and plus you don't have to listen to all the attendant BS that goes along with selling a car. Good luck with the sale!
Jamesbo, I agree. Lambo doors would be a perfect fit on this car. I laughed out loud when I read that!

ctsplicer

Oh for Christs sake,WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR THE FRICK'EN CAR?And just what is so wrong with wearing gym socks with my custom tailored suit?I wear clean sneakers with them!