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Old November 16th, 2012, 07:18 AM
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Old November 16th, 2012, 07:33 AM
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Considering it used to be a diesel, it's just lucky it didn't end up in the crusher.
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Old November 16th, 2012, 07:39 AM
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He had me right up until the Chebby 350

I seem to recall the Army tried 4-wheel steering like that on some Jeeps in the late fifties or early sixties - apparently they had to withdraw them all because they kept flipping over on turns and killing soldiers.

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Originally Posted by MDchanic
He had me right up until the Chebby 350

I seem to recall the Army tried 4-wheel steering like that on some Jeeps in the late fifties or early sixties - apparently they had to withdraw them all because they kept flipping over on turns and killing soldiers.

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GM did rear wheel steering just recently 2009-2010 ish with thier top of the line trucks.

honesly, I kinda dig that chopped top... Imagine that slammed like a modern day ZZTop ride?

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Old November 16th, 2012, 08:17 AM
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GM did rear wheel steering just recently 2009-2010 ish with thier top of the line trucks.
Yes, but it was only a couple of degrees of steering, and it was computer controlled to operate only at safe speeds, unlike the construction-machine setup he has on there.

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how is it that the pass side wheels are turned in opp directions in the photo but hte same directions in the newspaper pic ?

This 4 wheel steering concept is over my head. Don't understand.
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Old November 16th, 2012, 09:21 AM
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The rear steer on monster trucks and offroad vehicles is manual and hydraulic operated. You can manually turn it either way. Dont ask...I actually feel dumber for knowing that.

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how is it that the pass side wheels are turned in opp directions in the photo but hte same directions in the newspaper pic ?

This 4 wheel steering concept is over my head. Don't understand.
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Old November 16th, 2012, 09:37 AM
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I'v dun stuff like that, had 57 chev on a blazer with 42" swampers, off road only. Thats entertainment. LOL. Glad I got away from that kind of fun.
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Old November 16th, 2012, 09:43 AM
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I just don't like it - period.
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Old November 16th, 2012, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by VikingBlue
how is it that the pass side wheels are turned in opp directions in the photo but hte same directions in the newspaper pic ?

This 4 wheel steering concept is over my head. Don't understand.
In the GM system (from 03 GM service manual) the rear wheels turn opposite the fronts below 40MPH and with the fronts above that speed. But it's not that simple. A computer monitors lateral acceleration, yaw angle and a half dozen other variables to decide which way to turn the rears and to what degree. Might be something like counter steering on a motorcycle over about 30MPH. All this magic is over my head too.
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Old November 16th, 2012, 11:32 AM
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Personally, unless it's a Monster truck or a serious off road hunting buggy it serves no practical purpose. And I doubt you could tie down a moose or buck to the roof of that thing.

Aside from the non factory seats being right on the floor I don't think you'd have much head room in there. Will give the fabricator top marks for the frenching on the hood though.
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One word Fugly
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Old November 16th, 2012, 03:45 PM
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Ditto!
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Old November 16th, 2012, 03:48 PM
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I like the glitter paint on the carbs and manifold! Prolly do that to mine over the winter.
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Old November 16th, 2012, 04:42 PM
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Shut The Front Door That is one ugly...I don't know what! I really like the Trans Am tail pipes. They look perty. To each there own. I don't see it going for $12,000.00.
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Old November 16th, 2012, 05:08 PM
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Yeah - it's a head-turner,
you turn your head and BARF!!
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Old November 16th, 2012, 06:10 PM
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I think the chebby might be because 4wd Olds transmissions are kinda hard to find.
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He had me right up until the Chebby 350

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Old November 16th, 2012, 08:57 PM
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No self respecting Olds motor would go in there!
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Old November 17th, 2012, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by garys 68
I think the chebby might be because 4wd Olds transmissions are kinda hard to find.
But not impossible, actually. GM put the Olds diesel in Chebby and GMC trucks, and 4WD was available, so there are BOP transmissions set up for that. Of course, the only difference between a 2WD and 4WD TH350 or TH400 is the output shaft, so it's really easy to build a "4WD" BOP trans.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 09:27 AM
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By the way, anyone want to bet that the steering rear axle on this, ah, car, is just a GM truck front axle with the ring and pinion swapped for a conventional rotation set? I'll bet you simply need to replace the stock steering stabilizer shock with a hydraulic cylinder and you have rear wheel steering. Good luck using that while you drive, however. Probably looks way more impressive than it actually is.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 02:35 PM
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Good luck using that while you drive, however.
The word "Deathtrap" comes to mind.

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Old November 17th, 2012, 02:48 PM
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Hey his ad say's it's a trophy winner. It does not mention what category. It must have won stupidest custom everbuilt. I like how the tachometer and gauges are in a very uselss location.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by coppercutlass
I like how the tachometer and gauges are in a very uselss location.
Not really - with that chopped roof, you've probably got to lean over sideways to fit inside, so they're right in front of you .

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Old November 17th, 2012, 05:07 PM
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My god people, that is an engineering marvel and it's different. It took great vision and skills to get it that way and it deserves praise and kudos. So what if it does not meet most of your tastes. It seems to have been built by a kid and I'm sure he is very proud of it. If my kid built that I would be very proud of him!
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Old November 17th, 2012, 05:10 PM
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If a kid built that, he had mad fabrication skillz, coupled with an absolute lack of engineering ability, and a pretty serious case of short stature.

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Old November 17th, 2012, 05:56 PM
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If i built that my dad would kick my @$$ . He flipped out when i put fiberglass fenders and hood on it.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 06:49 PM
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Definitely NOT my taste.
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These guys has TOO much time on their hands. They need to get out more often.
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It needs full-fender mudflaps!
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Old November 18th, 2012, 06:04 AM
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My god people, that is an engineering marvel and it's different. It took great vision and skills to get it that way and it deserves praise and kudos. So what if it does not meet most of your tastes. It seems to have been built by a kid and I'm sure he is very proud of it. If my kid built that I would be very proud of him!
I don't doubt that a great deal of thought, work and $ was put into it. I wasn't insulting or praising the vehicle. I posted the link because I've never seen an Oldsmobile done THAT way.

That said, it looks like sh** IMO. If it was my kid, I'd advise him to restore a W-30 or W-31 with the amount of $ spent on that thing. W machines may be ho hum to "Olds guys" but, they are still far more unique than the dime a dozen Chevelles, GTOs and Mustangs. If it's attention the kids seeks....W machines ALWAYS turn heads.
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