1966 442 4 Speed EBAY...
May 6th, 2012, 05:19 PM
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1966 442 4 Speed EBAY...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-...item41657b969e
Just thought I would post. Although I was under the impression actually im quite certain that F85 Deluxe were never offered in buckets, although that pattern looks correct for a bench it is also correct for an F85 Sport Coupe. Nice car though, I will def be bidding. I wonder what he will let her go for.
Just thought I would post. Although I was under the impression actually im quite certain that F85 Deluxe were never offered in buckets, although that pattern looks correct for a bench it is also correct for an F85 Sport Coupe. Nice car though, I will def be bidding. I wonder what he will let her go for.
May 6th, 2012, 07:20 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-...item41657b969e
Although I was under the impression actually im quite certain that F85 Deluxe were never offered in buckets, although that pattern looks correct for a bench it is also correct for an F85 Sport Coupe.
Although I was under the impression actually im quite certain that F85 Deluxe were never offered in buckets, although that pattern looks correct for a bench it is also correct for an F85 Sport Coupe.
Oh, and I'm glad to see he put in a 442 radio........
May 6th, 2012, 08:53 PM
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Yes Cutlass Sports Coupe. I sent this guy an email informing him I cant wait to see what he has to say about it. I also asked to see the data plate, but being from WA I assume its a Fremont car.
May 7th, 2012, 04:36 PM
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He just posted the trim tag/data plate and its def a real 442 with an original 4 speed only thing changed is that the buckets were added in lieu of the bench. Ironic I have a perfect black bench with the right pattern for that car. Hope he gives me a buy it now price.
May 8th, 2012, 01:40 PM
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Appears to be a nice car, I do not like the heater hose routing over to the fenderwell and back....easy fix. Also front grill center emblem looks a little high and center bar bowed..... This maybe camera angle or just the way it is supposed to be. Might want to ask about body repairs/previous rot/rust/bondo etc. It is nice to know whats under the sparkle. If you end up with it I wish you good times!
May 23rd, 2012, 10:44 AM
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Here is an email i got seems like a scam, from $17000 to $7000 to good to be true
1966 Oldsmobile 442
Year: 1966
Number of Cylinders: 8
Make: Oldsmobile
Transmission: Manual
Model: 442
Mileage: 13,000
Vehicle Title: Clear
Exterior Color: Black
Fuel Type: Gasoline
Interior Color: Black
Interior is amazing original and very nice.(new carpet)
Motor is a 68 -455 mild mannered with no speed equipment added.
All new fuel system including tank/ sender rebuilt carb.
Paint is new using all PPG products base clear. Stainless and chrome was removed for painting and restored or rechromed. Including original bumpers. Color sanded and buffed to a mirror like finish.
All new rubber products and weather seals.
Transmission is a 4 speed that works well as does the clutch original 442 shifter
Rearend is a stock 390 posi thats works well
Underside of car is clean and detailed.
Newer exhaust
This car is very detailed and ready to show and drive.
Photos are attached.
If you decide to buy it you should know that I want the transaction to be handled by eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection. They will keep the money until you receive and inspect the car. You will have 5 days of inspection period. If the car is not like described or it has any issues you will have to ship it back on my expense (I'm 100% this won't be the case) and they will give you a full refund. This way, you will be able to inspect the car before committing to buy it and I know that you have the money and you aren't just fooling around.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks
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Year: 1966
Number of Cylinders: 8
Make: Oldsmobile
Transmission: Manual
Model: 442
Mileage: 13,000
Vehicle Title: Clear
Exterior Color: Black
Fuel Type: Gasoline
Interior Color: Black
Interior is amazing original and very nice.(new carpet)
Motor is a 68 -455 mild mannered with no speed equipment added.
All new fuel system including tank/ sender rebuilt carb.
Paint is new using all PPG products base clear. Stainless and chrome was removed for painting and restored or rechromed. Including original bumpers. Color sanded and buffed to a mirror like finish.
All new rubber products and weather seals.
Transmission is a 4 speed that works well as does the clutch original 442 shifter
Rearend is a stock 390 posi thats works well
Underside of car is clean and detailed.
Newer exhaust
This car is very detailed and ready to show and drive.
Photos are attached.
If you decide to buy it you should know that I want the transaction to be handled by eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection. They will keep the money until you receive and inspect the car. You will have 5 days of inspection period. If the car is not like described or it has any issues you will have to ship it back on my expense (I'm 100% this won't be the case) and they will give you a full refund. This way, you will be able to inspect the car before committing to buy it and I know that you have the money and you aren't just fooling around.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks
David
May 23rd, 2012, 11:01 AM
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Scam - Saw this same approach on a few other cars. Bet "David" is really 'Emma and Ralph Mueller". NO ONE just drops the price 10large because the car didn't sell, they re-list. The whole purpose of getting bids is probably to offer 'second chances' to get ripped off
I'm betting the car isn't even his. Ask if you can fly out to see and inspect it in person. Probably will be told it's in a storage warehouse and already packed for shipping so you can't do that. Don't walk away - RUN, RUN FAST FORREST!!!!!
I'm betting the car isn't even his. Ask if you can fly out to see and inspect it in person. Probably will be told it's in a storage warehouse and already packed for shipping so you can't do that. Don't walk away - RUN, RUN FAST FORREST!!!!!
May 23rd, 2012, 11:12 AM
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Scam - Saw this same approach on a few other cars. Bet "David" is really 'Emma and Ralph Mueller". NO ONE just drops the price 10large because the car didn't sell, they re-list. The whole purpose of getting bids is probably to offer 'second chances' to get ripped off
I'm betting the car isn't even his. Ask if you can fly out to see and inspect it in person. Probably will be told it's in a storage warehouse and already packed for shipping so you can't do that. Don't walk away - RUN, RUN FAST FORREST!!!!!
I'm betting the car isn't even his. Ask if you can fly out to see and inspect it in person. Probably will be told it's in a storage warehouse and already packed for shipping so you can't do that. Don't walk away - RUN, RUN FAST FORREST!!!!!
Allan, I figured for sure a scam I just wanted everyone else to see this to. What a shame we dont have honest people anymore and today 90% of the time a handshake isn't worth the sweat that was tranferred hand to hand. I emailed this guy extensively to inform him that the buckets were never available on the f85 deluxe and he kept avoiding my emails, finnally he stated that he believes it was special order, yea bullshit. I can bet anything that this data plate on this car is a repop with the 5v and also its prob got a parrish/pontiac frame as apposed to the 442 A.O smith.
May 23rd, 2012, 04:53 PM
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Its probably a real car and was in a real ad but a scammer is making a fake ad. I had this happen to my 40 Ford a few years ago. I sold it on Ebay for 17000.00 3 months later a buddy called a said I thought you sold your 40' I said I did. He told me there is a buy it now in ebay right now for $9000.00 I went and looked at the ad and it was my exact ad pictures and all.
May 23rd, 2012, 05:17 PM
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Its probably a real car and was in a real ad but a scammer is making a fake ad. I had this happen to my 40 Ford a few years ago. I sold it on Ebay for 17000.00 3 months later a buddy called a said I thought you sold your 40' I said I did. He told me there is a buy it now in ebay right now for $9000.00 I went and looked at the ad and it was my exact ad pictures and all.
Well its just ashame that its gotten to bad. I still remember the days of finding a car in the local paper and having no pictures just the owners description and driving across the state to see the car. I love todays technology but I certainly will never forget the good old days.
May 24th, 2012, 04:41 AM
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Well its just ashame that its gotten to bad. I still remember the days of finding a car in the local paper and having no pictures just the owners description and driving across the state to see the car. I love todays technology but I certainly will never forget the good old days.
Nine times out of ten, I do not buy a car for the car, but for the adventure that goes along with it and the people I meet!
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May 24th, 2012, 05:22 AM
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Car is on Ebay right now, reserve not met at 13K, same guy who listed it as before. As far as the buckets go, seller states in the ad (as before) that:
And of course he provided an image of the cowl tag info; which does indicate it was originally a becnh seat car. Not sure what more he is supposed to say. I had a '66 4 speed AC car (AC sure looked like a factory install) that didn't have the cowl code indicating AC; wondered if it was dealer added (apparenlty this was possible back then, to result in a factory-appearing instal). Alternatively, it was added later perhaps when the car was restored, or the cowl tag was wrong (a subsequent owner added a fake cowl tag to "hide" a color change, and interestingly neglected to add the AC code, so now all bets are off). Point is, these discrepancies are often mysteries, and an owner 45 years after the fact can't know the full story for sure.
There have been some quetions regarding the bucket seats original to the car because its a F-85. All I know it matches the rest of the interior perfectly and when they put the new carpet in they said the interior was original. So you be the judge what I can say it looks stock and is very nice.
May 24th, 2012, 06:26 AM
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The guy has 100% positive feedback from 257 transactions.
I pulled his closed auctions and its a veritable treasure trove of muscle car parts. Here's the link: http://feedback.ebay.com/ebaymotors/...edbackAsSeller
Look at some of the positive feedback for these parts:
1). 1960 Chevy 348/409 Tripower Intake with Carbs and linkage/Air cleaners (#280783191511)
2) Oldsmobile : 442 (#280536651237) (with a 14k sales price)
3) 442/ OLDSMOBLE STEERING WHEEL 68THRU72 (#280232761643)
4) 1966 Oldsmobile 442 W-30 Distributor Very Rare!!!! (#280223379729)
I don't know the seller, but based on his feedback numbers (quantitative) and the comments from those sales (qualitative), I'd say he looks legit.
Good luck with your efforts. This looks like a car worthy of the effort.
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I pulled his closed auctions and its a veritable treasure trove of muscle car parts. Here's the link: http://feedback.ebay.com/ebaymotors/...edbackAsSeller
Look at some of the positive feedback for these parts:
1). 1960 Chevy 348/409 Tripower Intake with Carbs and linkage/Air cleaners (#280783191511)
2) Oldsmobile : 442 (#280536651237) (with a 14k sales price)
3) 442/ OLDSMOBLE STEERING WHEEL 68THRU72 (#280232761643)
4) 1966 Oldsmobile 442 W-30 Distributor Very Rare!!!! (#280223379729)
I don't know the seller, but based on his feedback numbers (quantitative) and the comments from those sales (qualitative), I'd say he looks legit.
Good luck with your efforts. This looks like a car worthy of the effort.
NS
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May 24th, 2012, 06:30 AM
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HERE ARE OUR EMAILS
If you are interested in buying it please provide me your full name and address so I can initiate the deal through eBay.
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:38 PM, salandflo@comcast.net wrote:
please leave your phone number
___________________________________
From: "David Green"
To: salandflo@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:25:05 PM
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile : 442
$7,000
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:09 PM, salandflo@comcast.net wrote:
what is the cost of the car
before i do anytnhing i will need ur phone number
___________________________________
From: "David Green"
To: salandflo@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:06:59 PM
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile : 442
The procedure is simple:
I start the transaction on eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection
They send you an invoice with all necessary details.
You send the money to them
They confirm that they have received and secured the money..
I ship the car.
After you receive,inspect and decide to keep the car you will confirm to
eBay that everything is ok so they can send me the money.
This way we are both protected and we will have a smooth transaction...
As soon as you give me your shipping address I will set up the
transaction.
Thanks
David
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:28 PM, salandflo@comcast.net wrote:
> Please leave ur phone number I thought this car went to 16000 on eBay
> why r u selling it for 7000 is it a clone
>
If you are interested in buying it please provide me your full name and address so I can initiate the deal through eBay.
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:38 PM, salandflo@comcast.net wrote:
please leave your phone number
___________________________________
From: "David Green"
To: salandflo@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:25:05 PM
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile : 442
$7,000
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:09 PM, salandflo@comcast.net wrote:
what is the cost of the car
before i do anytnhing i will need ur phone number
___________________________________
From: "David Green"
To: salandflo@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:06:59 PM
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile : 442
The procedure is simple:
I start the transaction on eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection
They send you an invoice with all necessary details.
You send the money to them
They confirm that they have received and secured the money..
I ship the car.
After you receive,inspect and decide to keep the car you will confirm to
eBay that everything is ok so they can send me the money.
This way we are both protected and we will have a smooth transaction...
As soon as you give me your shipping address I will set up the
transaction.
Thanks
David
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:28 PM, salandflo@comcast.net wrote:
> Please leave ur phone number I thought this car went to 16000 on eBay
> why r u selling it for 7000 is it a clone
>
May 24th, 2012, 10:04 AM
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Current Ebay car is in Washington state.
"salandflo@comcast.net" is an E-mail address used by a member of this forum (cutlasslegend):
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...ornia-car.html (see post 18)
Who apparently lives in CT (zip 06417):
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...-ss1-rims.html (see post 6)
ON EDIT: I see my mistake...but you should post the E-mail of the guy...I'd guess its not the currrent seller on Ebay.
"salandflo@comcast.net" is an E-mail address used by a member of this forum (cutlasslegend):
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...ornia-car.html (see post 18)
Who apparently lives in CT (zip 06417):
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...-ss1-rims.html (see post 6)
ON EDIT: I see my mistake...but you should post the E-mail of the guy...I'd guess its not the currrent seller on Ebay.
Last edited by aliensatemybuick; May 24th, 2012 at 10:18 AM.
May 24th, 2012, 10:47 AM
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If they are asking for $7000.00 then its a scam period. Someone is using real seller info and trying to make a scam. When it happened to me on my 40' Ford they had my email address as a clickable link in there ad but when you right clicked and hit properties it was taking to a completely different persons email.
May 24th, 2012, 11:17 AM
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I will send all the correspondence to the original ebay seller and see if its the same guy. Chances are he will be in about as much shock as I was when he told me 7000 and you can have the car.
May 24th, 2012, 11:23 AM
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Current Ebay car is in Washington state.
"salandflo@comcast.net" is an E-mail address used by a member of this forum (cutlasslegend):
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...ornia-car.html (see post 18)
Who apparently lives in CT (zip 06417):
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...-ss1-rims.html (see post 6)
ON EDIT: I see my mistake...but you should post the E-mail of the guy...I'd guess its not the currrent seller on Ebay.
"salandflo@comcast.net" is an E-mail address used by a member of this forum (cutlasslegend):
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...ornia-car.html (see post 18)
Who apparently lives in CT (zip 06417):
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...-ss1-rims.html (see post 6)
ON EDIT: I see my mistake...but you should post the E-mail of the guy...I'd guess its not the currrent seller on Ebay.
May 24th, 2012, 08:26 PM
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No Idea. I emailed the original seller during the auction but maybe they did see it on here and he noticed that I was very interested in the car. Ladies and Gentlemen I am saddened to say that we may have a mole somewhere here on classicoldsmobile.
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