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Old September 16th, 2011, 08:18 AM
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Phil Sylva's 1970 442 W-30 convt. 4 speed

I knew this car when Jim Stohlman owned it. Documented 4 speed convertible in Phil Sylva's collection. If I did not do the link correctly go to the Super Car Registry and search on 1970 442 rag. In case you have a couple dollars to spend on a car.

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nice car, looks like an original W30 around here I know of. I wonder if it would get close to that dollar amount.
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Beautiful, original car, but delusional pricing in my opinion. Of course, if you don't ask, you DEFINITELY won't get it...
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Old September 17th, 2011, 10:26 AM
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A very nice car indeed!

I just don't understand how it can be called unrestored and original with having 1 repaint.
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If this was a 67 oldsmobile delmont 88 owned by Ted Kennedy it would be a steal at this price.
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Old September 17th, 2011, 11:39 AM
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for 250 it should have the right shift handle ,and isnt it missing the fender braces?
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What's wrong with the shifter handle?

Convert big blocks didn't get braces.....they are so flexible that those little tubular braces wouldn't have done a thing anyway.

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Old September 17th, 2011, 08:20 PM
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only a 1/4 mil? eh I'll get it i guess
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Old September 17th, 2011, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 70Post
Convert big blocks didn't get braces.....they are so flexible that those little tubular braces wouldn't have done a thing.
Correct, but I put them on mine anyway

edit: was that a waste?

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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Beautiful, original car, but delusional pricing in my opinion. Of course, if you don't ask, you DEFINITELY won't get it...
Joe,

You always say actual sale prices are what you consider to be the market:

B-J Scottsdale 2010:

Documented 1970 W30 4 speed convertible....$222,200 including buyer's premium. (this may be the one Thornton did) Apparently the seller of the $250,000 one above is certainly in the ballpark. It's probably one of the most documented one's in existence

Yeah, you can argue they're just a bunch of drunk rich people but the market is still there for rare documented cars.
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Old September 18th, 2011, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 70Post
What's wrong with the shifter handle?

Convert big blocks didn't get braces.....they are so flexible that those little tubular braces wouldn't have done a thing anyway.
my bad i forgot there was no 442 on the 70 up shift handle
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Originally Posted by allyolds68
Joe,

You always say actual sale prices are what you consider to be the market:

B-J Scottsdale 2010:

Documented 1970 W30 4 speed convertible....$222,200 including buyer's premium.
I was not aware that there had been an actual sale near the asking price.
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It's interesting that the few little things in the engine compartment (wiring to the TCS switch, broken upper hose bracket (?), paint on the dashpot bracket etc...) arent corrected before being offered for 250,000.00. That being said, it's still worth a Keg-O-Cash !!
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Old September 19th, 2011, 06:49 PM
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we could probably pick it apart all day as I also see a
wrong radiator,
wrong oil filler cap
wrong alternator
- its still an awesome car but is a lot of money
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Old October 5th, 2011, 06:07 AM
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Documented cars are few and far between. Of the 96 built there are probably less than 15 remaining with good documentation like this car. Add the history on this car and it makes it pretty valuable if you want a 4 speed w-30 convertitble. The 2010 sale of a similar car makes it at least in the ball park. $200-250k is a great price for an Oldsmobile and I have everything to gain with a sale over 200k since I own one of these cars.

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Beautiful car ($250k though?? I might have that on me ). Should have kept the Gold top IMO. Not many options either - just the ones that count I guess.
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