68Tom

I'm currently looking at the 1968 442 models*equipment*prices sheet and this has been bothering me for a while so maybe you can clear it up.

Under "STANDARD EQUIPMENT", it lists:

• Paint, G.T. Side Stripe

Then, under "FACTORY-INSTALLED OPTIONS", it lists:

• W36 Paint, Rally Stripe--Standard with W30. N.A. with G.T. Side Paint Stripe............................................ ....................$15.80

I guess the question is, what's the W36 stripe? I can't say I've ever seen a '68 with anything but the side stripes. Also, if the side stripe is standard, I'm assuming those I've seen without the side stripes came ordered as "stripe-delete"??

Anyway, if you have pics, that'd be cool, cause for the life of me I'm not sure what they're talking about.

Jamesbo

http://www.442.com/vcs/1964_1972/mscott68.html

This site says it's the fender stripes,
I beleive that is correct but I am not sure
Anywho the car is a beauty

68Tom

That is a nice car.

So, if those are the Rally Stripes, what the heck are the "standard" G.T. Side Stripes?

This is all very confusing to me.

wmachine

The standard GT stripes are the horizontal pinstripes that run along the "top of the sides". It was started in '67 and carried through to '68.

68Tom

No kidding? Wow, I've seen so few cars with them (including in photos) that I guess that I never really knew they were standard. Think I saw them on a W-31 once, and that's about it.

Any photos of them on a '68 442?

Jamesbo

Welcome to the "Confused club"

joe_padavano

While we're talking about the W36 stripe (this is the "bumblebee stripe on the front fender, for those who aren't familiar with it), why does it seem like every 68 442 now has one when it didn't come with one from the factory. The little known secret is that when the W36 stripe was ordered, the 442 emblems were relocated reward, closer to the door. This was done so that the stripe would end up centered between the back edge of the wheel opening and the front edge of the door at the bottom of the fender. Look at most 68s that have the stripe and note that the leading edge of the stripe will probably hit the back edge of the wheel opening. This is because the car did not have the stripe originally and whoever painted it was not aware of the emblem relocation.

Sorry this is just a pet peeve of mine...

68Tom

Haha. Glad to be a member!

Wow, that's good info, Joe. I think I actually remembered that in a past post about stripe location. Is there a quick measurement I can make to determine if mine came with it or not?

64Rocket

Tom
Here you go...................

Gene
http://www.442restoration.com/68fenderstripe.htm

68Tom

Great, thanks Gene. I have actually seen that before. Just forgot about it.

dan1s

Tom,

If you need the exact location of the stripes let me know and I will be glad to measure mine for you. I need to verify them anyway because I plan on painting my car next year.

rcorrigan5

Fusick also sells a 1968 442 Stripe Stencil Kit, P/N 68SS, for about $80, that might also aid you in getting the W36 stripe in the correct position. My brother used it with success in putting the W36 stripe on his car (the blue one). Fortunately, mine (the white one) originally came with the stripe.

dan1s

Tom,

Here's a side shot of mine.

FenderStripes.jpg

NJ442

Hi Joe. Thanks for the valuable information. I never knew the "442" placement was different for factory-ordered stripe cars. I was all set to add stripes and realized my 442 placement is only a little over 9 inches from the stainless steel fender top molding and over 4 inches from the edge of the fender (near door). I guess I clearly have a "no stripe" car and I want to stay "correct" although I like the stripes. I do notice that many 442s have incorrect stripes - they are too close to the wheel opening molding. On another note, I can't find my build/broadcast sheet - have checked in and under the seats. My car is any early '68 production Fremont, CA build. Any ideas where the sheet may be hidden? Thanks again for your insight. Best wishes, Paul

64Rocket

NJ,
did you notice that this thread is like 7 years old ?

Gene

Yellowstatue

But it is still pertinent.

64Rocket

Very true. I see so many '68's with the stripe in the wrong place.

1969w3155

The broadcast card can be under the carpet, under the rear seat, or in the seat springs, if it has one. As yo have a California built car, there is a chance that the buildsheet is on top of the gas tank.

joe_padavano

Ever since Phoenix Graphics started selling the W-36 stripe template, EVERY SINGLE 68 442 on the road now has them - and all located incorrectly. The 68 shown in the Phoenix Graphics catalog even has them wrong.

When these cars were new, I NEVER saw one on the road that had the stripes.

rcorrigan5

I did! My dad bought it!


Randy C.

64Rocket

I have a very early build Lansing car. I have not look yet, any idea where to start looking?
Gene

Yellowstatue

My buddy Phil bought a new '68 W30 four speed w/stripe. Jade gold metallic with a black stripe. Took possession Dec. '67.

Kace

O.K. so I guess it's safe to say that a car that didn't come with stripes has the 442 script in the wrong place on the fender. So when you add the stripes they line up where they line up unless you plan on moving the script back and then need to do patching and paint work. Who is going to go through all that? So excuse us all who have the stripes in the "wrong place." Just saying.

allyolds68

The only thing you're likely to find is the small 2"x4" broadcast card attached to the underside of the rear seat. It isn't going to tell you much except what Fisher put on the car.

Me

NJ442

Rocket, I actually did find the cards. Did Olds not stow a broadcast/build sheet in the car like most of the other car makers did?

73supreme

Yes, the topic is 7 years old, but the cars are even older..... I agree with Joe about the pet peave. I think it boils down to guys want to add as much to their cars as they can, even if it was not accurate for their car. For some reason a few years after production when it was time to repaint, the body shops never replaced the STANDARD GT stripe. My pet peave is those ubiquitous "Hurst equiped" emblems. I NEVER saw one until the last decade, now they are all over the place.

Jamesbo

I know what ya mean. When my Dealer plastic sticker fell off my Cheby 2500 4 X 4 I had to use one to cover up a bad spot on the tail gate paint.

joe_padavano

The sickness is spreading!!!

allyolds68

WTH is on the hood vents on the driver's side rear of the hood?


They grow some weird stuff in NYC

joe_padavano

Gauge pods.

allyolds68

I wish I could find a pair of those 15x7 rims or at least one repro to match mine.

73supreme

This is getting comical. I did a review one night of all 1968 4-4-2's for sale and noticed that almost all of them had the W-36 stripe. Only a few had the emblems in the right location. I guess guys are so hungry for some stripes they will add them anywhere. Now that they are moving into 1969, I may add them to my 1973!
If you are looking for wheels, check "Wheel Vintiques" They might have what you want.

allyolds68

Wheel Vintiques will make a custom rim for $349 which is also what The Parts Place is selling each of the three repro 15x7's that they have left in stock from the last run. When Wheel Vintiques ran a production run of these rims they were priced at $149 each (at The Parts Place too). They stopped making them about two years ago. They are only making SSI's now. From what I gather they'll run the SSI's until the market gets soft and then they'll switch back to SSIII's. Apparently there isn't enough interest from the Olds crowd to keep everything on the shelf. Just one thing at a time


Does any place in the NE chrome rims? I have two 15x7's that I could get chromed too

Octania

Post #28 pic - isn't that "W-30" decal supposed to be UNDER the marker light?




Trick rhetorical question, that decal was not used on '68's.

joe_padavano

You tricked yourself, Chris. Look again at the fender emblems and the leading edge of the hood and grille. The car in Post #28 is a 1969, thus my inclusion of it here. Frankly, the stripes look better on that car than on most 1968s!

shatrab

You wouldn't have seen mine... It was in Hawaii until 2011!

Octania

Joe, you are DEVIOUS

and, I love you for that.

I have failed your test, and I know what I must now do... for I have brought shame upon the family name.

73supreme

Hey, I know Joe will like this; I was surfing ebay and among all the 68's with W-36 stripes (you know it was standard on all 4-4-2's) I found a Cutlass S with the W-36 treatment!!!!

allyolds68

A guy posted these on Facebook recently. I never knew this page was in the Assembly Manual. The generic assembly manuals that you get on ebay, Year One, etc, don't have it.

1969w3155

Saved to my files, thanks.