Any Exhaust recommendations?
#2
I know several people who have said nothing but the best about Gardner exhaust systems.
I bought the exhaust system for my '68 4-4-2 from Brothers Automotive Products. I've heard both pro and con about BAP but I had pretty good luck with them. I wanted an exhaust system that looked and sounded like the original system and the BAP product did the trick. One little problem, though - the driver side exhaust pipe (manifold to muffler) didn't fit quite right. Fortunately, I know an exhaust guy - he took a look at it, put it in his pipe bender and made a couple of every so slightly bigger bends and, presto, it fit like a glove.
For my '69 4-4-2 and my '71 Corvette, though, I'm going to Gardner.
Randy C.
I bought the exhaust system for my '68 4-4-2 from Brothers Automotive Products. I've heard both pro and con about BAP but I had pretty good luck with them. I wanted an exhaust system that looked and sounded like the original system and the BAP product did the trick. One little problem, though - the driver side exhaust pipe (manifold to muffler) didn't fit quite right. Fortunately, I know an exhaust guy - he took a look at it, put it in his pipe bender and made a couple of every so slightly bigger bends and, presto, it fit like a glove.
For my '69 4-4-2 and my '71 Corvette, though, I'm going to Gardner.
Randy C.
#4
Gardener is pricey, but installs with no fuss [ did mine while it was sitting on her ''skates''.] Good sound [very close to factory tone] and no drone at cruising speed.All in all, it depends how much you care to spend.
#5
I considered the Gardner system but ultimately went with the Factory-correct system from Inlinetube after seeing how nice it was after installing it on my friend's '69 H/O. The appearance, detail (like the flat side of the left engine pipe to clear the A-frame mount just like the factory), installation and sound is PERFECT. At $760.00 it's not cheap but a little less expensive than the Gardner system (and comes with EVERY clamp, hanger, bracket, bolts, etc.) but I couldn't be happier and highly recommend it. Also Gardner needed 6 weeks and the Inline system was in my driveway 3 days after ordering it.
Last edited by mmurphy77; November 3rd, 2011 at 05:33 AM.
#6
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Hi Mike,
Thanks for the feedback. Do you have additional pics of your car. I notice we both have the same car. I would like to see more of the engine compartment specifically, from your signature pics it looks real clean. Always looking for ideas. I can't seem to find the factory air cleaner anywhere. Thanks again.
Matt Redmond
Thanks for the feedback. Do you have additional pics of your car. I notice we both have the same car. I would like to see more of the engine compartment specifically, from your signature pics it looks real clean. Always looking for ideas. I can't seem to find the factory air cleaner anywhere. Thanks again.
Matt Redmond
I considered the Gardner system but ultimately went with the Factory-correct system from Inlinetube after seeing how nice it was after installing it on my friend's '69 H/O. The appearance, detail (like the flat side of the left engine pipe to clear the A-frame mount just like the factory), installation and sound is PERFECT. At $760.00 it's not cheap but a little less expensive than the Gardner system (and comes with EVERY clamp, hanger, bracket, bolts, etc.) but I couldn't be happier and highly recommend it. Also Gardner needed 6 weeks and the Inline system was in my driveway 3 days after ordering it.
#7
Hi Mike,
Thanks for the feedback. Do you have additional pics of your car. I notice we both have the same car. I would like to see more of the engine compartment specifically, from your signature pics it looks real clean. Always looking for ideas. I can't seem to find the factory air cleaner anywhere. Thanks again.
Matt Redmond
Thanks for the feedback. Do you have additional pics of your car. I notice we both have the same car. I would like to see more of the engine compartment specifically, from your signature pics it looks real clean. Always looking for ideas. I can't seem to find the factory air cleaner anywhere. Thanks again.
Matt Redmond
#8
I went with the Pypes system because I wanted stainless. Sounds good with Dynomax mufflers but I was not happy with the fit. Had to heat and hammer a flat spot to clear the control arm mount, and I still have to play around with the RH tailpipe to get it to line up with the cut-out. (I think the pipe is bent wrong, It's not a perfect mirror image of the LH, which did fit well.) Right now I can't recommend it.
#10
http://www.realoldspower.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=79491
Check out D & A Automotive...BIG fan of the way my new system fits and sounds!
Check out D & A Automotive...BIG fan of the way my new system fits and sounds!
#11
Had mine custom made by Henry's Muffler of Raleigh. 2.5 in with balance tube, flowmasters and stock tips and welded throughout. Sweet sound and the car runs great at the dragstrip with optimum performance.
GOG
GOG
#12
you can check out waldron voe set up was a pontiac option but the in line tube boys used it on there w-31 aluminum 350 project . The humbler add can be seen on you tube also.
Last edited by firefrost gold; November 20th, 2011 at 06:49 PM.
#14
I went with the Pypes system because I wanted stainless. Sounds good with Dynomax mufflers but I was not happy with the fit. Had to heat and hammer a flat spot to clear the control arm mount, and I still have to play around with the RH tailpipe to get it to line up with the cut-out. (I think the pipe is bent wrong, It's not a perfect mirror image of the LH, which did fit well.) Right now I can't recommend it.
#15
http://waldronexhaust.com/ The VOE or DCE are on here. Read that inline
used this one their car's with a garder down and tail pipes they were done
a few years ago and waldron picked up were jim hand and I dont remember who else was working on them and put them in perduction.
used this one their car's with a garder down and tail pipes they were done
a few years ago and waldron picked up were jim hand and I dont remember who else was working on them and put them in perduction.
#17
Gardner is THE only way to go. I have purchased about 7 systems from them for different makes and they are top notch. they now offer a turbo style muffler with a bit more throat to it vs the originals are fairly quiet. Used a competitors this year from a supplier mentioned here and we had to send it back 3x due to improper fitment. Should have and will stick with gardner.
#18
Exhaust system
I just finished installing a Pypes 2.5" system on my 70 convertible and was very happy with the fit and finish, no issues at all. I used their Race Pro mufflers as well. The pipes exit perfectly in the bumper cutouts and their is adaquate clearance at all interference points. I will be taking pics this week and will post them.
#19
I have 2.5 pypes system on my 442 it fits great. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQWjHo80sBc
#21
I just finished installing a Pypes 2.5" system on my 70 convertible and was very happy with the fit and finish, no issues at all. I used their Race Pro mufflers as well. The pipes exit perfectly in the bumper cutouts and their is adaquate clearance at all interference points. I will be taking pics this week and will post them.
That's why I am curious which kit you used.
Adam
#22
To sicky olds, oregontopcat and 2olds, I'm glad you didn't have to fight with your installations. I used kit# SGA30 per Mike at Pypes. My biggest complaint was with the LH pipe to the manifold. They should know how much space there is between the control arm bracket and the starter. Offering those downpipes was the main reason I went with Pypes. When it gets warm enough, I'll loosen up the entire RH side and take another shot at fitting the tailpipe to the cutout, but the measurement to the first bend is different than the LH side, which fit well. Maybe I'll find out how good their warranty is. I really want to like this system. I did order the trumpet tips, but I'll put those once I get the pipes lined up.
#23
I'm also very interested in this. I really like the performance and quiet of the Dynomax 17749 mufflers; wondered how they would work with the pypes 2.5in exhaust. Are the only fitment problems up at the exhaust manifold? I will still have to fab custom to my header/cat setup, so that's not a problem. Anybody speak to the magnaflow system?
#25
I'm also very interested in this. I really like the performance and quiet of the Dynomax 17749 mufflers; wondered how they would work with the pypes 2.5in exhaust. Are the only fitment problems up at the exhaust manifold? I will still have to fab custom to my header/cat setup, so that's not a problem. Anybody speak to the magnaflow system?
#26
1. Is your 442 original, go with OEM or reproduction OEM exhaust.
2. Are you looking for power? Go with headers, cutouts (manual or auto), x or h crossover & larger diameter pipe.
3. If keeping your 442, replace exhaust once using stainless steel.
4. Is sound important, listen to sound samples of different mufflers currently on the market.
Personally speaking, I would go with:
1. Stainless steel exhaust
2. Diameter of pipe is dependent upon engine upgrades. Stock is 2 1/4" however 2 1/2" is a common upgrade. Don't go too large or you will hurt performance, you need back pressure.
3. X or H crossover pipe. This balances exhaust pressure.
4. High quality muffler otherwise you will replace frequently.
5. Get clamped exhaust not welded so you can repair your own exhaust.
6. Most important, purchase exhaust created by Mandrel bend machine.
I hope this helps
Last edited by Wraythe; December 7th, 2011 at 02:25 PM.
#27
I went with the 2 1/2" Pypes with Racepro mufflers and X pipe system. Fit great on my 70 442 with manifolds and sounds good. I got it at Summit.
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