Is it live or is it memorex??? or a real 442

[70vette]

I am looking to buy a 70 442 conv, partial vin 342670M2401. It has the 442 grill work, hood, and front fender tip trim, and deck lid markings. It has a wing, dual exhaust, and a column shift automatic. VIN says it is a supreme. One web site says there is a W30 and W32 option that put an automatic into a 442. Another web site said that the factory built 442s on the fly once a car was on the line to fill an order.

I know I need the build sheet to know for sure, but, can a 342 code be a true 442???

thx

[wj67442]

From 68 to 71 the first 3 digit's should be 344 to be a TRUE 442 if the digit's on your data plate are 342 your have a Cutlass Supreme that came with a V-8 Hope this helps

WJ

[FL1970442]

Your VIN has to say 34467--------- to be a 442 convertible. That being said, the car you are looking at is not worth as much (appraisal wise anyway). In addition, a true 70 442 did not come with "deck lid markings". The only stripes are on the fiberglass hood. The W-30 has side stripes.
You don't need a build sheet to verify a 70 442's authenticity. It only came with a 455, nothing else. Most came with the Hurst dual gate, but you could still order the column if you wanted.

[joe_padavano]

Originally Posted by FL1970442

Your VIN has to say 34467--------- to be a 442 convertible. That being said, the car you are looking at is not worth as much (appraisal wise anyway). In addition, a true 70 442 did not come with "deck lid markings". The only stripes are on the fiberglass hood. The W-30 has side stripes.
You don't need a build sheet to verify a 70 442's authenticity. It only came with a 455, nothing else. Most came with the Hurst dual gate, but you could still order the column if you wanted.

A couple of points. First, be aware that you're responding to a post that's almost two years old. Second, some of your points are not quite correct. The W30 for 1970 did have wide side stripes, but all other 442s came with narrow side stripes. "Most" did not come with the dual gate. The base 442 transmission was the Dearborn heavy duty 3 speed manual with floor shifter. If you ordered the optional automatic, you got the column shifter (whether you had buckets or bench). The Olds floor shifter and console were an extra cost option and the dual gate was an additional cost option on top of that.

[FL1970442]

I'm not wrong, 70 442 came with nothing more than hood stripes. You could have dealers add pinstriping or possibly order it, but it did not come with any side stripes.

[1969w3155]

FL1970442...you are wrong, and Joe Is correct, and you only got the panel style hood stripes if the W25 ram air hood was ordered, the steel hood had only the optional pin stripes outlining the hood bulges.

[wmachine]

Originally Posted by 1969w3155

FL1970442...you are wrong, and Joe Is correct, and you only got the panel style hood stripes if the W25 ram air hood was ordered, the steel hood had only the optional pin stripes outlining the hood bulges.

X2

[69'442]

Did all 70 442's have the deck lid pinstripe also?

[wmachine]

I should clarify this:
The thin side *and* trunk stripes were standard on the 442.
The thin hood stripes were the Y73 "GT" stripes optional on the 442 and the Cutlass S. And the wide (panel) hood stripes were part of the OAI W27 hood option (std on the W30).

[Diego]

So the full hood patches like what was standard on 1969 W-30s was not available in 1970? Never could figure out if the hood pinstripes were standard in 1970 or an option, with no hood patches available.

[1969w3155]

That's correct, 1969 was the only year where dual hood paint panels were available on the steel hood. Standard on the W's and optional on others, with the pinstripe outlining the twin hood raised areas also an option.

[Diego]

So for 1969, there were two optional stripes? Always had the impression the pinstripes on the hood were standard.

[FL1970442]

W machine, the correct hood option is W25 not W27.
W27 is a rear end option.

[wmachine]

Originally Posted by Diego

So for 1969, there were two optional stripes? Always had the impression the pinstripes on the hood were standard.

Originally Posted by 1969w3155

That's correct, 1969 was the only year where dual hood paint panels were available on the steel hood. Standard on the W's and optional on others, with the pinstripe outlining the twin hood raised areas also an option.

"Hood GT" paint stripes were standard on the 442s and option Y73 on the Cutlass S.
The panel stripes are option W42 "Dual-Stripe" on the 442 (in lieu of the GT stripes) and standard on the W30.

Originally Posted by FL1970442

W machine, the correct hood option is W25 not W27.
W27 is a rear end option.

Of course. Mental typo.

[vette442]

...and since the original poster listed it, the 70-72 convertibles did not get the rear decklid spoiler from the factory or as an authorized dealer installed item.





This shot shows the rear decklid stripe as well.

Terry

[joe_padavano]

Nice piece of literature, Terry. It would be perversely interesting to find out how many wings got installed on 31xx and 35xx cars.

[Diego]

Hey, Terry! Peaceful over here, eh? ;-)

[wmachine]

Originally Posted by joe_padavano

Nice piece of literature, Terry. It would be perversely interesting to find out how many wings got installed on 31xx and 35xx cars.

Here's to your perverse interest, Joe!
None of the 31xx and 35xx cars got the factory install, of course.
Here are the numbers:
Approx 1050 on 3200 models
Approx 2720 on 3600 models
Approx 321 on 4400 models
Interesting that means the highest *percentage* of wing installs was on the F85 V8 Club Coupe! About 12.7% of them got the wing.

[344870M]

Originally Posted by joe_padavano

Nice piece of literature, Terry. It would be perversely interesting to find out how many wings got installed on 31xx and 35xx cars.

I would guess that there are more today than yesterday. Funny how that happens.