67 442 cowl tag help

duckblaster67 · January 19th, 2007, 11:16 PM

Since 442 was only an option this year on the Cutlass Supremes and not an actual model, is there anything on the tags that identify a TRUE 442 from a clone?

2blu442 · January 20th, 2007, 07:28 AM

Hello Duck
I'm not real up on the 1967 vintage, but if you don't find anything on the FAQ pages of this site try checking out: http://www.oldsmobility.com/ That site is specific to the 1967 Cutlass/442. John

wj67442 · January 30th, 2007, 02:03 AM

There is only one way to tell if its a true 442 because 442 was not its own model in 67 if you look at the cowl tag if the first 3 numbers are 338 that stands for a Cutlass V-8 ( the 8 in the number stands for 8 cylinder ) ( there were only 2 V-8"s made that year for the Cutlass 350 & 400 ) the 400 was the 442 engine..the next thing is check the engine right in front of the thermostat housing there will be a number if the number starts with 39 and ends with E that is a 400 engine after that you can check the numbers to the body to see if its a matching number car ...if the first 3 numbers are
333 / 334 / 335 or 336 then your car cannot be a 442

yogi442 · January 30th, 2007, 07:54 AM

I think if you check the only 2 V8's available in 67 for the Cutlass were the 330 and 400. The Cutlass was not optioned with 350 until 68. I could be wrong but seems I read this somewhere before.
Actually, now that I think about a friend of mine does have a stock 67 Cutlass and it has a 330 in it.

wj67442 · January 30th, 2007, 09:47 AM

dont know what i thinking about but yes you are right it is the 330 Thanks

oldsnut · February 2nd, 2007, 12:30 PM

Fremont Ca made 67 442s and they will not have the 5V on the cowl tag, only the Lansing cars had that. There are many things to look for, but the only true way to identify a 67 442 is to have the build sheet that matches the cars serial number. You can come close by just comparing the equipment and numbers but I have seen way too many 67 442s rusted away that were sold and the drivetrain, etc was swapped to a good Cutlass Supreme body.

duckblaster67 · February 2nd, 2007, 08:46 PM

If the Fremont, CA 442s don't have the "5V" on the tag, what would they have then?

oldsnut · February 3rd, 2007, 10:55 AM

I made long winded reply to your question and it was lost for some reason so the long and short of it. Fremont cars have nothing that anyone has been able to identify as marking the W29 package. Without the build sheet you have nothing to use for identification. I have found that no matter where the 442s were built in 67 that the non-442 cars had a CS emblem on the C-pillar. Remove the inside dome light from the C-pillar and if you can see where the holes for the emblem were welded or puttied up you have a car that has been converted.

January 19th, 2007, 11:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
duckblaster67 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Dakota Posts: 22	67 442 cowl tag help Since 442 was only an option this year on the Cutlass Supremes and not an actual model, is there anything on the tags that identify a TRUE 442 from a clone?

January 20th, 2007, 07:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
2blu442 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Medford, Oregon Posts: 2,205	Hello Duck I'm not real up on the 1967 vintage, but if you don't find anything on the FAQ pages of this site try checking out: http://www.oldsmobility.com/ That site is specific to the 1967 Cutlass/442. John __________________ 1964 Cutlass Factory 4spd 1965 442 4spd 1967 442 Auto 1967 Cutlass Convertible 1967 Cutlass four door daily driver 1968 442 Auto 1969 442 W30 Auto 1970 442 4spd 1971 Cutlass Flat Top Wagon 1973 Che*vy 3/4 Ton 454/TH400 Tow Vehicle Only the tow vehicle is finished!

January 30th, 2007, 02:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
wj67442 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 44	67 442 Cowl Tag There is only one way to tell if its a true 442 because 442 was not its own model in 67 if you look at the cowl tag if the first 3 numbers are 338 that stands for a Cutlass V-8 ( the 8 in the number stands for 8 cylinder ) ( there were only 2 V-8"s made that year for the Cutlass 350 & 400 ) the 400 was the 442 engine..the next thing is check the engine right in front of the thermostat housing there will be a number if the number starts with 39 and ends with E that is a 400 engine after that you can check the numbers to the body to see if its a matching number car ...if the first 3 numbers are 333 / 334 / 335 or 336 then your car cannot be a 442

February 2nd, 2007, 12:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
oldsnut Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3	67 442 documentation Fremont Ca made 67 442s and they will not have the 5V on the cowl tag, only the Lansing cars had that. There are many things to look for, but the only true way to identify a 67 442 is to have the build sheet that matches the cars serial number. You can come close by just comparing the equipment and numbers but I have seen way too many 67 442s rusted away that were sold and the drivetrain, etc was swapped to a good Cutlass Supreme body.

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January 30th, 2007, 07:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
yogi442 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Blaine Wa Posts: 88	I think if you check the only 2 V8's available in 67 for the Cutlass were the 330 and 400. The Cutlass was not optioned with 350 until 68. I could be wrong but seems I read this somewhere before. Actually, now that I think about a friend of mine does have a stock 67 Cutlass and it has a 330 in it.

January 30th, 2007, 09:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
wj67442 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 44	dont know what i thinking about but yes you are right it is the 330 Thanks

February 2nd, 2007, 08:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
duckblaster67 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Dakota Posts: 22	If the Fremont, CA 442s don't have the "5V" on the tag, what would they have then?

February 3rd, 2007, 10:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
oldsnut Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3	I made long winded reply to your question and it was lost for some reason so the long and short of it. Fremont cars have nothing that anyone has been able to identify as marking the W29 package. Without the build sheet you have nothing to use for identification. I have found that no matter where the 442s were built in 67 that the non-442 cars had a CS emblem on the C-pillar. Remove the inside dome light from the C-pillar and if you can see where the holes for the emblem were welded or puttied up you have a car that has been converted.