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Old February 7th, 2017, 04:27 AM
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if anyone is wondering how I found it be leave it or not I ran an ad that said 442 wanted the next day this guy texted me info and pics😵
Wow, you just never know what might be right around the corner. Can't wait to see more pictures!
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Originally Posted by marxjunk
everyone has a definition..to me..survivor means it has survived thru time with out resto or modification..

you park that thing anywhere and people will walk by restored cars to see it..theres a whole section at MCAN and the traffic is heavy..

its a survivor to me, and how i will always view and classify them..
Its interesting how things change. 25 years ago people wouldn't give most cars like this a second look except guys like us on this board. I experience the same thing. I go to a local car meet with the convertible and people look at the car. I drive the hard top and people swarm it. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that people feel "one day I can find something like this" or "That's a car I can afford" where a completed car may be perceived as "out of reach" by many.

Good luck today - hope you can get it
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thanks!, love your hardtop..!
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Its interesting how things change. 25 years ago people wouldn't give most cars like this a second look except guys like us on this board. I experience the same thing. I go to a local car meet with the convertible and people look at the car. I drive the hard top and people swarm it. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that people feel "one day I can find something like this" or "That's a car I can afford" where a completed car may be perceived as "out of reach" by many.

Good luck today - hope you can get it

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Old February 7th, 2017, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JOHNNYOLDS442
if anyone is wondering how I found it beleave it or not I ran an ad that said 442 wanted the next day this guy texted me info and pics😵
That's the same way I found my W-30. Posted a WANTED ad and the guy called me. Said he didn't want to sell it but wondered if I wanted to look anyway. I talked him into it. I think his wife helped, too.
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Originally Posted by JOHNNYOLDS442
Ditto, well headed out Tuesday morning to lock deal up.
just need it drivable I live in a complex.
if anyone is wondering how I found it be leave it or not I ran an ad that said 442 wanted the next day this guy texted me info and pics😵
I think I am as excited about it as you and its not even my deal, lol. My dad found a W-30 the same way. Ran an ad in the paper and he got a call.
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john,
you have a knack for finding this stuff
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Lol ya think?
well bought the car agreed on a price getting delivery tomorrow I got the title and paper work.







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john,
you have a knack for finding this stuff
Owners manual
Anybody ever see a receipt for the under the hood lock installed pretty cool

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That's awesome. Congratulations!

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AWESOME 442!! & another build sheet for another '70 thread

what color do the stripes appear to be? hood lock installed in Florida
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Z code

Post a picture of the cowl tag. We need to know if that mysterious Z code is on the cowl tag.


Congrats on the purchase.
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Which mysterious Z code are you talking about?

QUOTE=oldsmobiledave;989704]Post a picture of the cowl tag. We need to know if that mysterious Z code is on the cowl tag.


Congrats on the purchase.[/QUOTE]
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Good deal, glad you have that one sewed up. I have been like everyone else on pins and needles, hoping you would get it before it slipped away.

Congrats!
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Originally Posted by JOHNNYOLDS442
Lol ya think?
well bought the car agreed on a price getting delivery tomorrow I got the title and paper work.








Owners manual
Anybody ever see a receipt for the under the hood lock installed pretty cool

Here's prob your guy


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1970 Z code on cowl tag cars

Originally Posted by JOHNNYOLDS442
Which mysterious Z code are you talking about?

QUOTE=oldsmobiledave;989704]Post a picture of the cowl tag. We need to know if that mysterious Z code is on the cowl tag.


Congrats on the purchase.
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read here


https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...rs-1970-a.html
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Awesome! Congrats on your new acquisition! What a cool car!
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CONGRATS on the treasure find, they are not often found unrestored, complete, no rust, etc. hang on to it....


I have a special request, once you take possession of the vehicle and once the dust settles, would you be so kind and take detailed photos of the San Diego Trevellyan Oldsmobile license plate frame, I have been seeking that exact one, but need photos to have someone make a close copy as my '68 Hurst Olds came from that dealership. Anything you can do will be greatly appreciated.
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An early car!
Sequence # 102677
Delivered Oct. 8, 1969
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Congrats!...very cool
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No problem i will get a pic tomorrow for you

Originally Posted by 70W30Jim
CONGRATS on the treasure find, they are not often found unrestored, complete, no rust, etc. hang on to it....


I have a special request, once you take possession of the vehicle and once the dust settles, would you be so kind and take detailed photos of the San Diego Trevellyan Oldsmobile license plate frame, I have been seeking that exact one, but need photos to have someone make a close copy as my '68 Hurst Olds came from that dealership. Anything you can do will be greatly appreciated.

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interesting he was about 45 when he bought it new and he sold it in 93 when he was about 69 then died 3 years later at age 72 obviously heart broken!

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Ok car arrived
installed battery all the lights work,park,brake hi beam low beam.
Shot Marvel in cylinders,Oil, and tank letting sit overnight
noticed reverse lock out for 4 speed still all hooked up nice!
has orig spare with SS1 wheel still has the nubs on it crazy! Firestone white wall DOT date 14/7 cool!
bought full tune up & oil change
motor was rebuilt 9k miles ago have paper work also carb was done.
wish me luck!!! tomorrow it hopefully comes back to life!
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How many miles on the car itself?
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Cowl tag

Originally Posted by JOHNNYOLDS442
Ok car arrived
installed battery all the lights work,park,brake hi beam low beam.
Shot Marvel in cylinders,Oil, and tank letting sit overnight
noticed reverse lock out for 4 speed still all hooked up nice!
has orig spare with SS1 wheel still has the nubs on it crazy! Firestone white wall DOT date 14/7 cool!
bought full tune up & oil change
motor was rebuilt 9k miles ago have paper work also carb was done.
wish me luck!!! tomorrow it hopefully comes back to life!

Please post a picture of the cowl tag. Thanks
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Put-r-ther, good to hear its titled up in your possession. It found itself a good home to rest in now, and here among us Oldsmobile guys.
How crazy is that!!
Congrats!

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What a sharp car and fantastic options. Was a bit confused, as the factory build sheet shows a hood lock, but then noticed on the Florida dealership work order that under dash wires were burnt. I guess the hood lock was also replaced along with the wires. Wonder what went wrong with the 442 just being a year old?

What is the TM-5 code for the rear axle noted in box 29 on the build sheet?

So the 442 went from California to Florida, and then to Arizona?
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How many miles on the car itself?
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cali to florida 2nd home i think then south carolina then arizona

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What a sharp car and fantastic options. Was a bit confused, as the factory build sheet shows a hood lock, but then noticed on the Florida dealership work order that under dash wires were burnt. I guess the hood lock was also replaced along with the wires. Wonder what went wrong with the 442 just being a year old?

What is the TM-5 code for the rear axle noted in box 29 on the build sheet?

So the 442 went from California to Florida, and then to Arizona?
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have not for got you !

Originally Posted by 70W30Jim
CONGRATS on the treasure find, they are not often found unrestored, complete, no rust, etc. hang on to it....


I have a special request, once you take possession of the vehicle and once the dust settles, would you be so kind and take detailed photos of the San Diego Trevellyan Oldsmobile license plate frame, I have been seeking that exact one, but need photos to have someone make a close copy as my '68 Hurst Olds came from that dealership. Anything you can do will be greatly appreciated.
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Interesting, I do not see where it was built on the tag...Like someone else posted really early build. My Fremont car is 00449 BF number with a build date of 09D......mine is 08D not O9

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09D also...

wow Sammy, close enough together they could have been built the same shift..

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whats the BF 0251 represent?

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Interesting, I do not see where it was built on the tag...Like someone else posted really early build. My Fremont car is 00449 BF number with a build date of 09D...
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Originally Posted by JOHNNYOLDS442
whats the BF 0251 represent?
somehow the "BF" represents Fisher Body Fremont
the 0251 = 251st "34487" body for Fremont assembly

if "sammy's" car is a Cutlass Supreme hardtop .....
the 00449 = 449th "34257" body for Fremont assembly

I didn't know ......

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Fremont Assembly was a General Motors automobile factory in Fremont, California. Groundbreaking for the plant occurred in September 1961.[1] It was the new site for production in the San Francisco area in 1962 when production moved from the older Oakland Assembly. Production continued through March 1 of 1982 when the plant was closed after production problems. Partially demolished (south end and water tower), the remaining plant was refurbished as the more successful NUMMI joint-venture with Toyota in 1984[2] and later became the Tesla Factory, Tesla Motors' automobile plant in 2010.

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Johnny, post a pic of the label on your driver side door, like this one
if it's still legible.
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What is your BF number Adam?
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Originally Posted by marxjunk
bf 00251
09D also...

wow Sammy, close enough together they could have been built the same shift..
From the build sheets..my schedule date was Aug 29 1969 and the PO was September 22 1969...

Although , they were pretty close together at the Fisher plant ...👍
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What is your BF number Adam?
You'll have to tell me Ted. BF? I see it on the cowl tag, and build sheet, but not sure what it means.
Now I see, body #, duh. Looks like an early one as well, yes?
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Adam, your car is a mid build... ty for posting.

Ted...1970 C/S. BF. 08D 00489. Sequence number. 00891 Aug,28 1969

Johnny 1970 442 BF 09D 00251. Seq number. 02677 Sep,22 1969

Adam 1970 442 BF 01D 01082. Seq number. 15749 Jan,23 1970


Just interesting to see the relationship between Fisher body and the line and the number of cars going down the line.

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I'm i the winner with the lowest #?


Originally Posted by sammy
Adam, your car is a mid build... ty for posting.

Ted...1970 C/S. BF. 08D 00489. Sequence number. 00891 Aug,28 1969

Johnny 1970 442 BF 09D 00251. Seq number. 02677 Sep,22 1969

Adam 1970 442 BF 01D 01082. Seq number. 15749 Jan,23 1970


Just interesting to see the relationship between Fisher body and the line and the number of cars going down the line.
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