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Old 05-10-2008, 04:42 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ijasond View Post
........ I really just want it to have a more aggressive sound & idle, I'm not too concerned with high performance ........
Calls for a highly subjective opinion. It's why I did not comment, the first time around.

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Originally Posted by ijasond View Post
........ Mondello cam JM-22-25-10 ........
Similar to my Isky 280 Mega. If I was looking for an “aggressive” idle, instead of a specific power output, I would have stepped up to the (12º more duration, .050" less lift) 292.

But then, everyone here will have different perceptions of “aggressive”.

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Originally Posted by ijasond View Post
........ What exactly would the symptoms be if the cam were the wrong one? ........
Engine would have noticeably less power than before the rebuild.

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Originally Posted by 59-59-59 View Post
Mondello is known to put their names on other parts ........
Should be an Engle cam with a Mondello part number..

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Originally Posted by ijasond View Post
........ I guess there is always the possibility that Mondello sent me the wrong one.
Always a possibility with any vendor. It's why one must always check any/all parts, before installing them.

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Originally Posted by Rallye469 View Post
......... Like take the cam down to a machine shop and have them measure everything ........
One of the “hidden benefits” of buying from the machine shop = The “checking” will be done on their dime.

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Originally Posted by Rallye469 View Post
......... 108 LSA is not what you were looking
for ........
Not a 108.

The -10 after the JM-22-25 (108º) makes it JM-22-25-10 (110º). For his application/goal, it wouldn't make any difference.

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Originally Posted by Rallye469 View Post
......... IF you wanted just a hair above stock for an agressive idle ........
He did not say anything about “a hair”. Black, brown, or blond.

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Originally Posted by Rallye469 View Post
......... What's stock lift in a 66 425? ........
Nothing to do with the topic. Unlike duration/overlap, lift will not help him to reach his goal.

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Originally Posted by ijasond View Post
........ I really just want it to have a more aggressive sound & idle, I'm not too concerned with high performance ........
Assuming, a real time conversation with Mondello, I would think they understood his desire/goal, far better than anyone using this venue.

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Originally Posted by Rallye469 View Post
......... Your valve geometry may be on the ragged edge of misalignment ........
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Not even close. .584” was not ideal, but it was not a problem.





I believe someone else, on this board, has gone higher.

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Originally Posted by Rallye469 View Post
......... Your not going to be pulling as much vacuum as you were ........
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That is a given. I would bet that vacuum was discussed during that conversation with the Mondello tech.

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Originally Posted by Rallye469 View Post
......... That cam has the potential to run low 12's in a 425 ........
At least.

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Originally Posted by Rallye469 View Post
......... I don't think it was the right choice ........
As I recently found out, opinions are what discussion forums are all about.

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Originally Posted by Rallye469 View Post
.........And someone correct me if they disagree.
And disagreements lead to discussions, which (in theory) lead to the dissemination of factual information.

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Originally Posted by ijasond View Post
........ I pretty much relied on the information they gave me ........
And that information was based on your input. All he/she did was choose (from the catalog) the profile that (in his/her opinion) fit your input.

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Originally Posted by ijasond View Post
........ stock motor with the exception of adding dual exhaust & that I simply wanted to give it a more aggressive idle/sound ........
That is exactly what you have. If it's not “aggressive” enough I have a, low mileage, JM-25-28 you can have, for the cost of shipping from 90012.

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Originally Posted by ijasond View Post
........ Can I make it work? ........
With a recurved distributor that matches your combination, it will work fine.

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Originally Posted by Rallye469 View Post
........ It just seems pretty big for what you originally stated you wanted ........
He has not complained that the idle is too “aggressive”.

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Originally Posted by Oldsguy View Post
He won't recommend one, remember?
No need to. He already made his choice. I just dropped by to see who I can pizz off.

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Originally Posted by Warhead View Post
........ You need ignition advance.
That needs to have 36-38 degrees advance (no more than that) by 3000 rpm ........
What he said. ↑

Once you've found the optimum total, you can experiment with initial settings to find the “idle” you want.

Less advance = more radical idle = slower throttle response.
More advance = smoother idle = quicker throttle response.

Once you have both numbers, the advance “curve” needs to be modified, to meet (without the vacuum advance) your new requirements. Look for a “tune up” guy that has a Sun distributor machine.

Norm
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........ I think you are more of an irritant to everyone here, and most certainly not nearly as smart or knowledgeable as you seem to think you are.
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