Neutral Safety Switch
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Neutral Safety Switch
So does anyone sell a Neutral safety switch for a 72 floor sfift? I have looked all over from retailers to restoration places and all I find is the one for the column shift. If no one sells them does anyone have one?
#4
excuse my ignorance but from what I recall, the floor shifter actually moved the column (in some cases - I am guessing not yours?)
if that's the case, wouldn't the neutral safety switch be the same as the col shift car?
if that's the case, wouldn't the neutral safety switch be the same as the col shift car?
#5
Jeffery....It is on the column. I am not sure if they are the same. I assumded the same thing but when I called a couple places it just states that they are for column shift cars and do not want to buy one until I am sure. now another question I have is the switch the same as 71? or since the seat belt light went through the safety switch in 72 is it different?
#7
Jeffery....It is on the column. I am not sure if they are the same. I assumded the same thing but when I called a couple places it just states that they are for column shift cars and do not want to buy one until I am sure. now another question I have is the switch the same as 71? or since the seat belt light went through the safety switch in 72 is it different?
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http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/se...eme&vi=1221714
#12
I have a 70 shifter in my 72 and it has the switch and bar that hooks up to the shifter handle. But I dont have it hooked up because mine is already on the column.
So I guess it is for sale if you want your car correct.
So I guess it is for sale if you want your car correct.
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Just make sure it has 6 terminals on it.
The 71 may not have the seat belt light switch on it, as the belts warning system may not have been on all 71's. However, a good replacement should have all 6 and if you do not need the belt switch, then you would not connect them to anything... Of course this is just logical reasoning...
I saw a switch at Rockauto, but the picture showed a 4 terminal - so it wont work the way you want it.
The 71 may not have the seat belt light switch on it, as the belts warning system may not have been on all 71's. However, a good replacement should have all 6 and if you do not need the belt switch, then you would not connect them to anything... Of course this is just logical reasoning...
I saw a switch at Rockauto, but the picture showed a 4 terminal - so it wont work the way you want it.
#15
Thanks guys, That clears it up. maybe these dealers need to label it as column mount and not for column shift only
the 2 places I spoke to said they were only column shift (I am sure they just read the same description as on their site and they say column shift in the description)
Oh well good to know that it is available and if they are all the same. I may have one or two and did not know it
the 2 places I spoke to said they were only column shift (I am sure they just read the same description as on their site and they say column shift in the description)
Oh well good to know that it is available and if they are all the same. I may have one or two and did not know it
#16
Yes - on the clutch pedal.
A refresher for our younger members. Starting with the 1969 model year, the feds required that the shifter and steering column be locked with the key. GM's solution to this was to use the column shift style linkage on floor shift cars to ensure that the shifter was locked. On manual trans cars this linkage was connected to the reverse lever on the trans. Since this backdrive linkage needed to be in place anyway, GM saved production cost by using only one configuration of NSS/backup light switch - the one on the column. The backdrive linkage automatically moved the column-mounted switch for backup lights (even with a manual trans) and provided the NSS function for A/T floor shift cars. Manual trans cars used a separate clutch interlock switch that used the same wires as the NSS. The two purple wires were simply plugged into the clutch switch instead of the NSS on the column.
A refresher for our younger members. Starting with the 1969 model year, the feds required that the shifter and steering column be locked with the key. GM's solution to this was to use the column shift style linkage on floor shift cars to ensure that the shifter was locked. On manual trans cars this linkage was connected to the reverse lever on the trans. Since this backdrive linkage needed to be in place anyway, GM saved production cost by using only one configuration of NSS/backup light switch - the one on the column. The backdrive linkage automatically moved the column-mounted switch for backup lights (even with a manual trans) and provided the NSS function for A/T floor shift cars. Manual trans cars used a separate clutch interlock switch that used the same wires as the NSS. The two purple wires were simply plugged into the clutch switch instead of the NSS on the column.
#17
ok Joe one last question.... on the manual floor shift, does that comply with the 1969 Federal mandate that the column and shifter be locked? I remember a release that you had to hold down to get the key out (which would only work with it in gear) but I thought that was on Fords...
#18
ok Joe one last question.... on the manual floor shift, does that comply with the 1969 Federal mandate that the column and shifter be locked? I remember a release that you had to hold down to get the key out (which would only work with it in gear) but I thought that was on Fords...
#19
Yes - on the clutch pedal.
A refresher for our younger members. Starting with the 1969 model year, the feds required that the shifter and steering column be locked with the key. GM's solution to this was to use the column shift style linkage on floor shift cars to ensure that the shifter was locked. On manual trans cars this linkage was connected to the reverse lever on the trans. Since this backdrive linkage needed to be in place anyway, GM saved production cost by using only one configuration of NSS/backup light switch - the one on the column. The backdrive linkage automatically moved the column-mounted switch for backup lights (even with a manual trans) and provided the NSS function for A/T floor shift cars. Manual trans cars used a separate clutch interlock switch that used the same wires as the NSS. The two purple wires were simply plugged into the clutch switch instead of the NSS on the column.
A refresher for our younger members. Starting with the 1969 model year, the feds required that the shifter and steering column be locked with the key. GM's solution to this was to use the column shift style linkage on floor shift cars to ensure that the shifter was locked. On manual trans cars this linkage was connected to the reverse lever on the trans. Since this backdrive linkage needed to be in place anyway, GM saved production cost by using only one configuration of NSS/backup light switch - the one on the column. The backdrive linkage automatically moved the column-mounted switch for backup lights (even with a manual trans) and provided the NSS function for A/T floor shift cars. Manual trans cars used a separate clutch interlock switch that used the same wires as the NSS. The two purple wires were simply plugged into the clutch switch instead of the NSS on the column.
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Try checking voltage at the two green wires on the NSS / reverse switch.
Dark green with white stripes comes from the fuse. The lighter green wire goes to the bulbs in the trunk.
If you get voltage on the dark green side and not the light, the fuse is good. Hold the probe on the light one voltage and slowly move the shifter up and down. If nothing, then the switch is prolly bad. If you get voltage somewhere out of the center reverse the switch may need adjusting.
If you get voltage in both places in reverse, then check connection at the front & rear body connectors.
Dark green with white stripes comes from the fuse. The lighter green wire goes to the bulbs in the trunk.
If you get voltage on the dark green side and not the light, the fuse is good. Hold the probe on the light one voltage and slowly move the shifter up and down. If nothing, then the switch is prolly bad. If you get voltage somewhere out of the center reverse the switch may need adjusting.
If you get voltage in both places in reverse, then check connection at the front & rear body connectors.
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